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HISTORICAL QUOTE OF THE WEEK - "Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other." ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Friday, March 05, 2010

OBAMA, PELOSI AND REID PLAY KAMIKAZE WITH HEALTH CARE

You may be wondering why I posted this video of Japanese Kamikaze attacks on US warships during WWII. This is the same senseless style of attack that Obama and the Democrat leadership are using to force health care down the throats of the American people.

Toward the end of WWII as resources were dwindling for the Japanese, Kamikaze tactics were used in order to attempt to inflict the most damage with the least amount of missed opportunities as possible. Pilots believed they were sacrificing themselves for the glory of the Emperor and the sure victory of Japan.

While Kamikaze attacks caused a great deal of concern and fear on the part of US Naval forces because of the unknown factor as to when they would appear or how many would attack, in reality the attacks as a whole did not inflict a great deal of damage and were actually an extremely poor strategy used by the Japanese.

But it did succeed in creating a fear and an exorbitant amount of US resources and manpower to not only keep watch for these suicide attacks but to prepare for the possibility of being attacked by Kamikaze. Ultimately the Kamikaze attacks did nothing to prevent the total defeat of the Japanese military nor delay the complete victory of US forces in WWII.

Democrats are following a similar strategy in Kamikaze tactics as they plan on using reconciliation to pass health care. What they are doing is total political suicide for both health care and Democrats who support this Kamikaze attack in trying to pass the massive government take over.

Just like the Kamikaze attacks in WWII, an exorbitant amount of attention and defense against this unconstitutional action is taking place but the outcome will be similar to that of Japan. Democrats are committing total suicide as a party and as a majority in order to force this socialist program down our throats.

Pelosi continually talks about how confident she is of passage, yet the vote is not coming until around Easter which falls in April. If she had the votes then she would schedule the vote now rather than waiting another month. The fact is that not as many Democrats are willing to take the Kamikaze health care flight to reconciliation and Pelosi and Reid have to do a considerable amount of arm twisting and bribery to get the votes.

Obama is also doing his part with the bribes as it was announced that the brother of one Democrat Congressman who is on the list of those who oppose health care, Obama appointed the brother to the federal bench in a lower court. Coincidence? I think not.

The Japanese Kamikaze attacks created fear and forced a great deal of resources to be used but the net result did not slow the inevitable loss by the Japanese in WWII. The Kamikaze tactics of expecting Democrats to sacrifice themselves for health care is also doomed to failure and loss as health care becomes the ash heap of the Obama administration and the beginning of the end of his Presidency and the end of liberal control of Congress.

Ken Taylor

25 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, I believe you are right on this. But I also believe Obama is going kamikaze because he does not want a re-election. And if he does not want that, then he has nothing to lose. He wants out anyway, after one term! This president stuff is all too tedious for him. He'd rather be the golden boy again, having people fawning all over him and telling him how wonderful he is.

2:13 AM, March 05, 2010  
Blogger bbunk said...

Ken,

You are pure doom and gloom. If you really thought that the Democrats were destroying themselves, you would be excited beyond belief. The tone you use is pure defeatism; you know that the Republicants year-long tactic of saying NO, along with their newest tactic of bald-faced lies (that are way too easy to disprove) are completely ineffective.

No, it is clear that the plan laid out this week by the Democrats will lead to successful passage of this landmark legislation before mid-year, including reconciling the Senate and House bills (perhaps with a few Repub ideas thrown in even it will lead to no votes). I'm not gloating, I'm just a realist.

Regards.

7:29 PM, March 05, 2010  
Blogger Tom's Place said...

But whoever said that 2,400 pages of crap can smell good after introducing a few good ideas?

The American people aren't fools. If the Democrats go "nuclear" with this legislation, then the voters will go "nuclear" on them.

7:43 PM, March 05, 2010  
Blogger bbunk said...

Tom,

If you are trying to infer with your 2 "nuclear" mentions that the Democratic plans have anything to do with the idea referred to as the "nuclear option", then you need to go back to remedial internet research.

There is no connection; anyone who has said there is, has lied to you; out and out, 100%, totally verifiable told you a lie. You will need to learn to not trust them. If this is something you heard on Faux Noise, then you will have learned a valuable lesson; lying is their stock and trade.

Regards.

11:17 PM, March 05, 2010  
Blogger Tom's Place said...

Comes from the person who has a hidden profile...or a blog that we can read & comment on...

4:31 PM, March 06, 2010  
Anonymous Seth said...

"...successful passage of this landmark legislation..."

Yeah, sure.

The problem the political left most suffers from is that they believe they speak for more than a modest percentage of the population in this country.

The majority of Americans are pretty much center right, yet the left continues, failing most of the time, to try to force a whole lot of legislation down our throats that is profoundly contrary to what anyone who values liberty and prefers to reap the fruits of his/her own hardwork and initiative wants.

Sorry, bbunk, but it might behoove you to take up residency in, uh, France, perhaps?

6:08 PM, March 06, 2010  
Blogger bbunk said...

Tom,

Was my question to you too complex for you to answer, or does slinging random BS indicate your intelligence?

How does my not having a blog or a profile here relate to the words you wrote? Do you stand behind them or not?

Regards.

7:06 PM, March 06, 2010  
Blogger bbunk said...

Seth,

All I claim is to speak for myself; these are my opinions. I think that you and I both value liberty, which is not a left, right, or center value.

BTW, I think this fixation with "throats" and "ramming" and "forcing" that seems to be referenced quite often recently may have something to do with personality traits.

"France"? - man, the "love it or leave it" BS wasn't effective back in the 1960's. It has no meaning now. Disagreement is the American way, don't you remember our history - the whole British thing?

Regards.

7:06 PM, March 06, 2010  
Blogger Tom's Place said...

bbunk - Of course I stand behind the words that I write. Otherwise, I wouldn't write them.

As far as your statement concerning deception, cite your source. I do my homework in gathering information from various sources to forming opinions about subjects.

My statement (and others) is supported by a CNN/AP poll which stated "A Gallup survey released Thursday morning indicates that 52 percent of the public opposes using reconciliation, with 39 percent favoring the move, and 9 percent unsure.” Other sources, even from Liberal news sources, speculate that the Democrats are in for a pounding in the midterm elections should this legislation pass through reconciliation (which is the only way it would pass).

As far as having a visible profile or blog goes, it just lends credibility to your statements, and makes you less of a troll. Of course, that's just my opinion...

7:56 PM, March 06, 2010  
Blogger bbunk said...

Tom,

You originally used the word "nuclear", but have yet to explain what that means to you. Can you provide any clarity here?

Not having a blog or profile has no relevance to ones credibility; telling lies does though.

Regards.

12:18 AM, March 07, 2010  
Blogger Tom's Place said...

OK, I'll bite... The best definition I've found while looking into the "nuclear option" is:

The nuclear option is an attempt by the majority party in the Senate to end a filibuster by invoking a point of order to essentially declare the filibuster unconstitutional. It can be decided by a simple majority, rather than seeking formal cloture with a supermajority of 60 senators.

Satisfied?

6:50 AM, March 07, 2010  
Blogger bbunk said...

Tom,

That is exactly the definition I would use, so we are in agreement on that. Thanks for clearing that question up.

However, what then confuses me is why you would mention this in your first post: If the Democrats go "nuclear" with this legislation?

I know of no reference or statement from the Democrats that signals any intent to go "nuclear"; what relevance does this idea have with any part of this thread?

Regards.

2:22 PM, March 07, 2010  
Blogger Tom's Place said...

bbunk - Look at the recent Harry Reid and Obama comments of pushing the health care legislation using reconciliation over the objections of Republicans and the poll mentioned above. To me, that is clear indication of "going nuclear." Check YouTube for the videos in all their glory.

And should the Democrats use that route (which is potentially self-destructive), the voters could have their say and not re-elect them.

3:57 PM, March 07, 2010  
Blogger bbunk said...

Tom,

AFAIK, you’ve not directly connected “nuclear option” with “going nuclear”. For sake of argument, recognizing the average person will see these two phrases as one “idea”, let me offer the following.

Firstly, we need to agree Congress has already passed 2 similar versions of Health Care (House [220-215]/Senate [60-39]). As a reminder, passage of a bill only requires majority vote.

Reconciliation, what the Dems are talking about, is not the “nuclear option”. It is part of Congressional rules, been used several times. The “nuclear option” is a theoretical tactic about breaking senate rules, which (since 1st put forth) has never been used. Reconciliation, in this case, would be an additional step to align, or reconcile the two passed bills. As a new separate bill, it would not be the full passage of health care, just a few tweaks to finish the process.

Unfortunately, many have conflated these two concepts, presumably to confuse and stir emotions in the public. AFAIK, this misinformation campaign is strictly partisan, involving Republicans, conservatives, and like pundits plus “news” orgs, primarily FNC. When observed from a fact-based perspective, I believe a rational person must conclude these constitute pure lies, cold and calculated, to push a political agenda.

Citations (using Media Matters, I hope any perceived bias can be set aside to view actual videos and read actual full transcripts):

Lying and Cheating to Pass ObamaCare
Search Results: Reconciliation nuclear
FNC
Sammon
CNN joins FNC
Morris
Hannity/Morris
Media:
Cavuto
FNC: nuclear option
FNC's Van Susteren
MSNBC's Witt
FNC's Colby
Fox Nation
Nina Easton
Quick Fact: FNC
Nuclear Option stupidity
Limbaugh
Beck and crew
Conservative media
GOP rhetoric
Baier
Hannity
FNCs
They Decide: FNC
Baier
Hannity
FNC's Jarrett
FNC to CNN
FNC
Matthews
CNN's Levs
Reconciliation … Common
Nuclear Option Is Not Reconciliation
Nuclear Option
50 vs. 60 votes

Reasonable people can disagree, but to do so without facts is pointless.

Regards.

4:36 PM, March 09, 2010  
Blogger Mike's America said...

Nice little talking points bunk, but as your name suggests it is PURE BUNK!

Reconciliation has NEVER been used for massive sweeping legislation like this. In fact, all the great major social programs passed with solid Republican support.

Obama has totally polarized the legislative process and destroyed any hope of bipartisan soloutions for health care.

Before the election we warned that Obama was a big government lefty and he said we were just trying to scare people and he really would work with both sides to get things done.

Guess who was right?

5:43 PM, March 09, 2010  
Blogger bbunk said...

This comment has been removed by the author.

6:43 PM, March 09, 2010  
Blogger bbunk said...

-- reposted to correct name error -- Sorry.
Mike,

Nice little talking points bunk, but as your name suggests it is PURE BUNK! - Put up or shut up and prove it!; your opinion is worth nothing beyond you. BTW, "bunk" is part of my actual name; I assume you aren't the kind to sink to the level of derisive comments on someones name. But then again, you are you!

Reconciliation has NEVER been used for massive sweeping legislation like this. In fact, all the great major social programs passed with solid Republican support. Prove this (or don't you know how? or should I just accept what you say as fact?) Where are your citations? Once again, do you stand behind your words enough to back them up? BTW; did you read this from above: Reconciliation … Common, which covers Reconciliation history? Did you read any of them (after all you had 67 minutes from my post to yours; how far could you get). What a joke.

Obama has totally polarized the legislative process and destroyed any hope of bipartisan solutions for health care. Obvious opinion; others may see if differently. However, if you were to try and prove it, perhaps you could look away from health care or before Obama took office; I wonder if the minority party in Congress tried to automatically block the majority party at every turn. That might be a sign of polarization and rank partisanship. Crossover votes by party might also help prove your point. That is, if you were more than just hot air.

Before the election we warned that Obama was a big government lefty and he said we were just trying to scare people and he really would work with both sides to get things done. As opposed to a big government righty? Bush was magnificent at expanding government and avoiding paying for huge parts of it. Well then, tell me about the televised meetings past admins had where it was live and real (stay focused, don't stray into policy, just find out about the meetings themselves). Tell me that the lies above (which you conveniently side-stepped) aren't about scaring people. Besides, I already covered the not-so-liberal side of Obama here in a prev post from Ken (he was too chicken to reply at all; apparently doesn't stand by his words).

All in all, your inability to attempt to begin to seriously reply to even one of the above blatant lies I proved were just one more talking point from the bankrupt ideology and tactics of the conservative republican viewpoint, shows all of us your worth in political circles. I can now dismiss you as the hack you've shown yourself to be.

As I was told earlier: As far as having a visible profile or blog goes, it just lends credibility to your statements; well, you have a blog and you have a visible profile. From the lack of responsiveness and reliance on simplistic talking points, you are the person who lacks credibility. I stand behind my words, opinions, and a clear ability to demonstrate same.

Good-bye and good-riddance.

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