TEA PARTY/CONSERVATIVES MAKING OUR MARK BUT NOT AS A THIRD PARTY - THE SUNDAY COMMENTARY
Whenever someone or something is viewed as a danger politically by the left, the usual response is attacking that danger or trying to tie that danger to acts which are considered by most Americans as bad. This also means that in reality who or whatever the left is attacking in this manner is having a vital impact in revealing the truth about the deceptive agenda that the left is pushing for our country.
Many politicians who have this type of impact with left are attacked both personally and politically in this manner by Democrat politicians and especially their cohorts in the leftist media. Ronald Reagan was attacked for his strong conservative values and beliefs. As President, Reagan was painted by the left as a raving warmongering lunatic set on the nuclear destruction of our country because of his uncompromising stance against the Soviet Union who he called the, "evil empire." The collapse of the USSR and the fall of the Berlin Wall not only proved Reagan right but placed him historically as one of our greatest and most beloved Presidents.
The Tea Party movement is having a similar impact on the American political scene today. While to majority of those involved in the movement are conservative one of the factors which scares the left so much about the Tea Parties is that it encompasses angry Americans from all political spectrum's. Americans who embrace Constitutional values of limited government, limited spending and opposition to the leftist agenda of Barack Obama and those who now lead Congress.
Initially the left and the MSM media wing of the Democrats tried to dismiss the Tea Parties as a joke and a flash in the pan gathering of few right wing fanatics. When that failed and the movement continued to grow in numbers and momentum the attacks from the left intensified and have now resorted to trying to identify every lunatic who tries anything as people who are associated with the, "right wing, " nuts and by association the Tea Parties.
For example, when the lunatic who was angry with the IRS and committed suicide by flying his small plane into the Federal Building in Austin, Texas took place just about every report in the left wing media made mention of the , "right wing anti government," movement or mentioned the Tea Party movement specifically trying to tie this crazed madman's actions to the legitimate anger against the leftists agenda which is being pushed in Washington by Democrats.
This in an attempt to, by association with the maniacal actions of the Austin madman, paint we who oppose Obama's agenda and the out of control bureaucracy in DC, as capable of similar murderous actions simply because we exercise our Constitutional right and duty of voicing our opposition to a government and government leadership who are taking our country down a path in which it was never intended by our Founders.
The left is also trying to sabotage the Tea Party movement by continually discussing the possibility of, "Tea Party," candidates creating a third political party for both the 2010 and the 2012 election. And unfortunately there is also a great deal of discussion in conservative venues which follows this same idea. Although in most instances the conservative discussion tends to nix the idea. The MSM left wing media is actually trying by their reporting to encourage a Tea Party third political party run.
The dangerous result of this is that many who are associated with the Tea Party movement and part of we who are disgusted with the politics as usual approach by both the Democrat and Republican parties are buying into this idea of a third party. An idea which sounds good on the surface but would guarantee the re-election of Democrats and even RINOS in 2010 and especially Barack Obama in 2012.
When our contry was young and there were many established political, "parties," every election for the Presidency ended up with a major split in the electoral vote with the candidate who took the most votes becoming President and the second most votes becoming Vice President with the election in most instances falling to a vote in the House of Representatives since a clear majority of electoral votes was not available.
More recently Teddy Roosevelt established a third party because of his anger with his succesor William Howard Taft drifting from Roosevelt's polices and while his Bull Moose party had a strong following and came in second in the election, it split the Republican vote so dramatically the even the extremely popular Roosevelt lost to Democrat Woodrow Wilson.
In 1992 Ross Perot ran a strong third party against George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton and the GOP split was so dramatic that Clinton won the Presidency with only 43% of the popular vote. Perot took 18% of the vote with backing from both Democrats and Republicans but 12% of his 18% came from the GOP, a number which would have re-elected Bush had Perot not been in the picture.
When asked about a third party alternative to the country club Republicans who controlled the GOP as Reagan's conservatism was gaining momentum in the late seventies, Reagan responded to the idea at the 1977 CPAC conference, "I believe the Republican Party can hold and should provide the political mechanism through which the goals of the majority of Americans can be achieved. For one thing, the biggest single grouping of conservatives is to be found in that party. It makes more sense to build on that grouping than to break it up and start over."
Reagan understood that a third party would guarantee a Democrat victory and proposed and accomplished the conservative rebuilding of the Republican party which not only brought victory in 1980 but established a strong GOP conservative movement which lasted for nearly 20 years. Just as it worked for Reagan it can and must work for us today. We cannot fall into the left wing media trap of promoting a third party nor let our anger with DC and our disappointment with the GOP force a third party guaranteeing Democrat victory.
We can reshape and rebuild the GOP with strong conservative candidates who stand for the Constitutional principles and beliefs. Michael Steele has expressed this desire for the GOP and has met with many Tea Party organizers who agree that the key is to transform the GOP into the conservative party just as Reagan did. While we will never have a Reagan we do have the same conservative principles as he did and those principles agree with the vast majority of Americans.
Just like Reagan did in the latter seventies we can transform the GOP into the conservative party promoting the Tea Party ideas and values and bring victory in 2010 and 2012 defeating the leftist agenda and returning Constitutional principles and true Congressional and Presidential representation of, by and for the people to Washington to restore our Nation and save our Republic.
Ken Taylor
Many politicians who have this type of impact with left are attacked both personally and politically in this manner by Democrat politicians and especially their cohorts in the leftist media. Ronald Reagan was attacked for his strong conservative values and beliefs. As President, Reagan was painted by the left as a raving warmongering lunatic set on the nuclear destruction of our country because of his uncompromising stance against the Soviet Union who he called the, "evil empire." The collapse of the USSR and the fall of the Berlin Wall not only proved Reagan right but placed him historically as one of our greatest and most beloved Presidents.
The Tea Party movement is having a similar impact on the American political scene today. While to majority of those involved in the movement are conservative one of the factors which scares the left so much about the Tea Parties is that it encompasses angry Americans from all political spectrum's. Americans who embrace Constitutional values of limited government, limited spending and opposition to the leftist agenda of Barack Obama and those who now lead Congress.
Initially the left and the MSM media wing of the Democrats tried to dismiss the Tea Parties as a joke and a flash in the pan gathering of few right wing fanatics. When that failed and the movement continued to grow in numbers and momentum the attacks from the left intensified and have now resorted to trying to identify every lunatic who tries anything as people who are associated with the, "right wing, " nuts and by association the Tea Parties.
For example, when the lunatic who was angry with the IRS and committed suicide by flying his small plane into the Federal Building in Austin, Texas took place just about every report in the left wing media made mention of the , "right wing anti government," movement or mentioned the Tea Party movement specifically trying to tie this crazed madman's actions to the legitimate anger against the leftists agenda which is being pushed in Washington by Democrats.
This in an attempt to, by association with the maniacal actions of the Austin madman, paint we who oppose Obama's agenda and the out of control bureaucracy in DC, as capable of similar murderous actions simply because we exercise our Constitutional right and duty of voicing our opposition to a government and government leadership who are taking our country down a path in which it was never intended by our Founders.
The left is also trying to sabotage the Tea Party movement by continually discussing the possibility of, "Tea Party," candidates creating a third political party for both the 2010 and the 2012 election. And unfortunately there is also a great deal of discussion in conservative venues which follows this same idea. Although in most instances the conservative discussion tends to nix the idea. The MSM left wing media is actually trying by their reporting to encourage a Tea Party third political party run.
The dangerous result of this is that many who are associated with the Tea Party movement and part of we who are disgusted with the politics as usual approach by both the Democrat and Republican parties are buying into this idea of a third party. An idea which sounds good on the surface but would guarantee the re-election of Democrats and even RINOS in 2010 and especially Barack Obama in 2012.
When our contry was young and there were many established political, "parties," every election for the Presidency ended up with a major split in the electoral vote with the candidate who took the most votes becoming President and the second most votes becoming Vice President with the election in most instances falling to a vote in the House of Representatives since a clear majority of electoral votes was not available.
More recently Teddy Roosevelt established a third party because of his anger with his succesor William Howard Taft drifting from Roosevelt's polices and while his Bull Moose party had a strong following and came in second in the election, it split the Republican vote so dramatically the even the extremely popular Roosevelt lost to Democrat Woodrow Wilson.
In 1992 Ross Perot ran a strong third party against George H. W. Bush and Bill Clinton and the GOP split was so dramatic that Clinton won the Presidency with only 43% of the popular vote. Perot took 18% of the vote with backing from both Democrats and Republicans but 12% of his 18% came from the GOP, a number which would have re-elected Bush had Perot not been in the picture.
When asked about a third party alternative to the country club Republicans who controlled the GOP as Reagan's conservatism was gaining momentum in the late seventies, Reagan responded to the idea at the 1977 CPAC conference, "I believe the Republican Party can hold and should provide the political mechanism through which the goals of the majority of Americans can be achieved. For one thing, the biggest single grouping of conservatives is to be found in that party. It makes more sense to build on that grouping than to break it up and start over."
Reagan understood that a third party would guarantee a Democrat victory and proposed and accomplished the conservative rebuilding of the Republican party which not only brought victory in 1980 but established a strong GOP conservative movement which lasted for nearly 20 years. Just as it worked for Reagan it can and must work for us today. We cannot fall into the left wing media trap of promoting a third party nor let our anger with DC and our disappointment with the GOP force a third party guaranteeing Democrat victory.
We can reshape and rebuild the GOP with strong conservative candidates who stand for the Constitutional principles and beliefs. Michael Steele has expressed this desire for the GOP and has met with many Tea Party organizers who agree that the key is to transform the GOP into the conservative party just as Reagan did. While we will never have a Reagan we do have the same conservative principles as he did and those principles agree with the vast majority of Americans.
Just like Reagan did in the latter seventies we can transform the GOP into the conservative party promoting the Tea Party ideas and values and bring victory in 2010 and 2012 defeating the leftist agenda and returning Constitutional principles and true Congressional and Presidential representation of, by and for the people to Washington to restore our Nation and save our Republic.
Ken Taylor
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8 Comments:
The Democratic and Republican Parties constitute a single functional, ideological and political unit. It is not enough to "oppose Obama" because the Democrats are only half of the problem in US politics today. The other half is the Republican Party. To support Republicans OR Democrats is to betray the original impulse of the tea party movement as an uprising against the Democratic-Republican political class's ongoing war against the people of the United States. While Democrats try to sabotage the tea party movement, this is not nearly as grave a danger as the hijacking of the movement by supporters of the Democratic-Republican two-party state and duopoly system of government. Real freedom and independence requires, first and foremost, freedom and independence from the Republican and Democratic Parties. Support for those parties amounts to nothing more than support for the defeat of grassroots opposition to the criminals at home in the political class.
While I agree with ahtw you say about the DC establishment and the failure of both parties, pushing for a third party in todays poltical climate will only guarentee the election of left leaning canidate because the conservative vote will be splintered.
I don't like a two party system any more then the next guy but we cannot affford to allow what is taking place with the socialists in DC who are in control now to continue and still have a Nation with any resemblance of freedom and individual rights.
The GOP can become a conservative party once agin if we concentrate our efforts in that direction. The Tea Party movement is not about party or opposition to any single party it is about opposition to oppressive and out of control government. IF transforming an already established party accomplishes to goal of returning Constitutional sanity to Washington then why are you so opposed to it and allowing your justified anger at government to cloud your thinking.
It is not just anti Obama but anti what he stand for and the direction he and those with him are taking this country.
"The Tea Party movement is not about party or opposition to any single party it is about opposition to oppressive and out of control government."
Oppressive and out of control government is the result of the dictatorship of the Democratic-Republican two-party state. You say the tea party movement is not about party or opposition to any single party, but then you basically say that the tea party movement is about defeating the Democrats and supporting Republicans. What elite special interests, like the Democratic and Republican Parties, fear most is independent and third party opposition to the ruling political class and two-party state. To cozy up to either of these parties for whatever reason is to capitulate to those forces and allow them to continue to dictate process and policy. To push for and accommodationist stance with respect to the ruling parties is to allow your judgment to be clouded by the propagandists and partisans of the ruling parties and political status quo.
Real freedom and independence requires, first and foremost, freedom and independence from the Republican and Democratic Parties.
The Tea Party, and associated organizations are about 15 million strong and growing. We are attempting to block the Democrats only because they have marched in locksetp over the cliff of Socialist Progressiveism; there appears to be little that we can do to work with them. The Republicans, on the other hand, are presently leaderless, directionless and voiceless and we can fill those voids while using their base infrastructure. A third party is not considered an option except in an extreme case where it would intentionally act as a spoiler (A. Teach a lesson and B. Block a candidate who really stinks)
As I implied above, to defeat the Democrats, which seems to be your primary concern here, you have to defeat the Republicans too because the Republican and Democratic Parties are effectively one single functional, ideological and political unit.
Freedom and independence today begins with freedom and independence from the Democratic and Republican Parties. To "work with" one against the other, to "use its infrastructure" is literally to become part of the problem and help to make it worse by reproducing it for yet another election cycle.
To vote Republican or Democrat is to give aid and comfort to the ruling political class in its ongoing war against the people of the United States.
I may not have been clear; we're not necessairily pro-Republican, anti-Democrat; they're all the problem. It's just that the Democrats have been too corrupted to be useful. As has been demonstreted time and again, third parties don't usually work. We just want to use the GOP infrastructure to put people in office who believe in the greatness of America, small government, balanced budgets, validity of the Constitution, free enterprise, etc. It's going to be a very long battle against the entrenched machines at local, state and national levels. It took eight years to win our independence from England, it probably will take as long, or longer to free us from the present tyranny of corrupt politics.
d.eris: So what is your suggestion? Vote libertarian and make sure Dems get re-elected?
You simply are not being practical. We have a two party system and no third party has been successful in the last 100 years.
Wishful thinking is no substitute for the hard work of being effective in bringing about real change.
"We just want to use the GOP infrastructure to put people in office who believe in the greatness of America, small government . . ."
Your goal is at cross purposes with your method. The GOP infrastructure functions only to reinforce the Democratic-Republican two-party state and duopoly system of government. Electing Republicans will never lead to decreases in the size and scope of government, balanced budgets etc, because the GOP is just the other wing of the big government Democratic-Republican Party.
"So what is your suggestion? Vote libertarian and make sure Dems get re-elected?"
The only wasted vote today is a vote for a Republican or a Democrat. Unless you are voting independent of the two-party system, whether third party or independent, you are politically co-dependent.
"You simply are not being practical. We have a two party system."
What is "not practical" is to continue electing Republicans and/or Democrats if your goal is a balanced budget, reducing the size and scope of government, etc. Republicans and Democrats stand for nothing other than the reproduction and expansion of the national security state, the surveillance society, the corporate welfare state etc.
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