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Tuesday, September 02, 2008


I had not initially intended to post concerning the news that came to light on Labor Day concerning the pregnancy of Governor Sarah Palin's daughter Bristol. This situation is a family matter and concerns the child of a politician which should by all accounts make it a non-issue and off limits.

But the left in hypocritical media frenzy is not only trying to make it an issue but dragging Bristol Palin through the mud in the process and claiming that her mother is the one doing the dragging. First to the media and the left wing who think this is a story that gives them fuel for their nasty political fodder, I say if you think dragging a child through the mud is wrong then how about NOT DOING IT!

In an attempt to try and attack the McCain/Palin ticket the media and many on the left have chosen to reach into the lowest gutter and use a child to try and get to the mother. I have never found one issue that I could find any agreement with Barack Obama, but I do have to agree and actually commend him on his response upon hearing about Bristol Palin.

Obama not only stated that it was a non-issue, but he stood fast on his prior statements that family was off limits, the only consistent policy that Obama has had in the campaign other than raising taxes. He also stated that if any member of his campaign talked about it they would be fired. Yet those who support him on the left and in the media could care less about the reaction by their candidate.

One has to wonder, considering the position many on the left have on the unborn issue, if some of their self righteous indignation concerning Bristol's pregnancy is because they are upset that she chose not to abort the baby.

Everyday families throughout this Nation find a similar situation to that of the Palin family in their own households. Sarah Palin and her family are an example of an American family that has problems as well as success. The pregnancy of her daughter is personal and even though the Governor is in the spotlight because of her addition to the GOP ticket, there is no excuse for the frenzy by the left and the media in placing her daughter in that spotlight.

This does not diminish or affect Palin's ability to be Vice President nor should it affect or hinder the process of the election except as a goal by the left to dig at anything that will make someone they do not like look bad. Palin's stance on moral issues have not changed and as with any parent, children make mistakes and cannot be watched 24/7.

The important result is that Bristol Plain has chosen the right path by keeping the baby and marrying the father to give her baby the best chance for a loving and normal life. Sarah Palin and her husband I am sure will be devoted and loving grandparents as they are parents.

I have to wonder if this had happened to Chelsea Clinton when she was a teenager if the response by the left and the media would have been that same. While the Clinton's were in the White House going after their then teenage daughter was considered off limits and rightfully so. Yet now because Sarah Palin is a Republican and frankly I also believe because she is a women the same liberals and media who considered Chelsea off limits now consider this private family matter headline news.

This will ultimately backlash on the left and the media. In fact the majority of Americans will now see Sarah Palin more like the average American mom and one politician that they can identify with because they understand the family issues that the Palin's are facing. In the long run the people of this Nation will side with Sarah and her family and once again add to their disgust of the media and many on the left.

Ken Taylor


Blogger Rob said...

It didn't happen to Chelsea Clinton - so speculating about it is ridiculous. It happened to the daughter of a governor who is being held up as a champion of family values and who promotes abstinence-only policies. Whether you like it or not, it provides further support to the fact that abstinence-only programs don't work.

Frankly, her daughter's pregnancy doesn't make much difference to me personally, and I do feel bad for her daughter, but politics in this country is a blood sport. That is just the way it is. In a day or two people will move on from the issue.

I think her bigger problem is going to be the "troopergate" issue. The revelation that came out yesterday that she has hired a lawyer raises questions.

Her fiscal record in Wasilla is horrible and it is now clear that she actually supported the "Bridge to Nowhere."

The latest revelation today is that she was an active member of the fringe Alaskan Independence Party a decade ago. She wanted Alaska to secede from the union. So much for loving America and being such a patriot.

11:43 AM, September 02, 2008  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Rob, the point about Chelsea was that she was off limits and rightfully so and so should Sarah Palin's kids.

As far as the patriot accusation,here is a direct quote from the Alaska Division of Elections ,

"Gail Fenumiai, director of the Alaska Division of Elections, tells ABC News that regardless of the impression given to members of the Alaskan Independence Party, "Gov. Sarah Palin first registered to vote in the state in May 1982 as a Republican, and she has not changed her party affiliate with the Division of Elections since that time."

What has you digging for any and all dirt about Sarah Palin. Does that fact that the GOP has a strong woman on the ticket bother you Rob ?

BTW, the doctors who advised us to wait six hours after the water broke when my son was born did so in order to allow his mother to relax and not have to suffer through the long agonizong wait in a delivery room for a baby that was born 14 hours after her water broke.

My son was not only born very healthy but his mom had a reletivly easy labor because she was relaxed and not uptight after waiting in a cold room until time.

This is in response to your accusation that her doctors were neglegent in thier actions and advice when my son was born.

Additionally Sarah Palin's son was already known to be a very special needs child and I can fully understand that as a mother she waould want the doctors that had been with her throughout the pregnancy!

Going after Palin through her daughter and through her pregnancy is inexcusable regardles of what office she is running for~!

3:50 PM, September 02, 2008  
Blogger Gayle said...

Oh give it a rest, Rob. Your desperation is showing!

Ken, I actually read a commenter on a Reuter's article say that she couldn't figure out why Sarah's daughter didn't just have an abortion, so your analysis is right on! Geez, these people are insane!

The fact is that it is the left who has made sex a non-issue and pushed it off as just fine and dandy in our public schools, and now they have the audacity to holler and scream because Sarah has a daughter who is pregnant out of wedlock? Talk about hypocrisy. It just shows how scared they are. Sarah's daughter isn't running for anything. Good and decent people will realize that Sarah is doing the right thing by standing by her daughter, and that the daughter and the father of this baby are doing the right thing by getting married and raising this child together.

Like you wrote, even Obama himself said this has nothing to do with the election and people's children should be off limits. But I hope the left continues doing this because it shows them up for the hypocrites they truly are and makes them look mean and nasty, as the ones doing this truly are. Sarah and her family can handle it, and they will do so with grace and good will. They are so far above the moonbats there just isn't any comparison.

3:55 PM, September 02, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was Sarah Palin who made it public.

What? You would prefer it be kept a dirty secret?

The fact is, everyone in Alaska knew, but no one in the rest of the Nation knew, or cared.

6:09 PM, September 02, 2008  
Blogger Rob said...

Hilarious. Palin puts it out there and then you complain that people are talking about it.

Ken, she attended AIP meetings and at a minimum it is clear that she is sympathetic to their platform. In fact, her husband was an officially registered member of the party.

I have no problem with Palin being a woman - I have a problem with her ideas, decisions, and actions. Calling me a sexist doesn't change the fact that she is under investigation for troopergate, that she lied and was actually for the "Bridge to Nowhere," that she ran Wasilla into the ground financially, that she appears to hold secessionist views (at the very least she has been sympathetic to that view), and that she demonstrated reckless behavior with her choice to give a speech and board an 11-hour commercial flight to return to Alaska after having her water break.

At a time when McCain should be talking about issues and his experience, he is fighting the Palin fires that keep popping up. It is pretty clear they didn't vet her properly.

6:39 PM, September 02, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This woman is against sex education in schools and preaches abstinence and family values...yet her 17 year old daughter is pregnant out of wed lock??? Is this a joke? Am I being punk'd?

7:43 PM, September 02, 2008  
Anonymous TONYINSATX said...

I can understand both sides of this because my family has gone through it. I have several nieces that were in their teens when they got pregnant. Unfortunately, it seems that it's almost becoming the norm in the American family. So on one hand, I think that it should have been a private, family issue. On the other hand, we're NOT talking about a normal family.This is the family of the Gov of AK who preaches abstinence and not sex ed! Apparently she can't teach the RELIGIOUS RIGHT version of sex ed to her own kids and make it stick! How is she and McOld going to force their beliefs on and rest of us? Face it, he only picked her because she's an unknown woman! If Obama had pick HRC this would not have been an issue because Palin would still be AK. Alas he picked Biden instead and "proof" here come Palin, unvetted and out of nowhere. He would have done better to have picked Kay Bailey-Hutchison. There is no way that I am going to vote for the repeats of Bush and Cheney!! Besides, McCain cheated on one of his wives! How is that family values? I wouldn't have brought that up, but Republicans and Conservatives "dug up: Obama's parents years ago and drug them through the mud, so McCain and Palin deserve no less!! Republicans and Conservatives would do better to just admit, on national tv (not Fox) that they hate everyone that disagrees with them and are ONLY concerned w/themselves, and no one else counts!! Republicans and Conservatives (read: bigots and elitest) SUCK!!!

8:28 PM, September 02, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment is directed to those in the media (and otherwise) who criticize Gov. Palin for "bringing her daughter under public scrutiny" by running for Vice President. I truly believe that, if a male vice presidential candidate's unmarried daughter was pregnant, this would not be such an "issue". It is amazing to me that so many liberal, feminist-supporting media types are playing the sexist card by harping on what should be none of our business!

8:35 PM, September 02, 2008  
Blogger Rob said...

Last Anon, you are the one who is pushing sexism that simply does not exist.

A male governor who pushes abstinence and "family values" only to see his 17-year old unwed daughter get pregnant and for pictures of her drinking underage would face exactly the same treatment.

You seem to believe that because she is a woman, she should not face the same scrutiny. You think the political gloves should come off because she is a woman.

Politics is tough - whining about tough questioning and public scrutiny is exactly what candidates for national office should expect.

9:04 PM, September 02, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rob, wait till you are a parent and your child chooses to not follow your counsel. Or perhaps consider your own life: did you ever go against the wise counsel of your parents? Should they be judged for your unwise choices?

9:14 PM, September 02, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe if Sarah Palin wasn't so proud to go back to work a day after having her 5 year old, and wasn't working with a 4 month old disabled infant left with someone else to raise, she would be able to actually be a mom to her 5 children. If she was around she might have noticed that her teenage daughter was sexually active, drinking underage, and hanging around a self-professed redneck boyfriend. Who is raising those children?

9:15 PM, September 02, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's silly. If it were Bill Clinton's daughter who got knocked up at 17, you would have been all over it.

9:16 PM, September 02, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets be honest-if Mrs Palin didn't have such a holier than thou attitude this wouldn't be such a big deal. I find the republican response funny though- aplaud the girl for keeping a pregnancy that she shouldn't have had in the first place- everyone is playing politics and in the meantime teenagers continue getting pregnant.

10:04 PM, September 02, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Republicans equal corportism and torture and they spoon feed it to conservatives through the idea of "service". Who are they serving but their own get rich agenda? Abortion is a no win argument, for either side. Look at the real differences between the parties. Individual freedom does not mean torturing people who don't beleive in your ideology so that you can be free to practice your faith with no interference, e.g. fundamentalist captialism, de-regulation, no minimum wage, no price cap on food. Those stated goals above are what I think Republicans believe in, and I don't agree with that. I don't agree with Republicans on abortion either, but it's not about's about economics.

10:13 PM, September 02, 2008  
Blogger Rob said...

I'm guessing that only the first ANON comment was directed at me. Let me address your point and your question directly.

1. I am a parent, and my wife and I have made choices that allow one of us to virtually be at home with our 2 kids every moment that they are home. If we are not home, we make sure that they have a grandparent home.

2. Any errors in judgement that my children make reflect poorly on me and my wife. If they fail, it is our failure.

To take that further, the choices I have made are based on the upbringing and lessons I learned from my parents. I was (and continue to be) cognizant of family respect and personal responsibility. I have never used drugs, never been arrested, I didn't knock up my girlfriend in high school, etc. I cannot think of one mistake that I have hever made that could have been a life changing or even potentially life changing mistake.

"Family values" is not a marketing slogan or a meaningless saying in my household - we actually live it.

12:54 AM, September 03, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


9:03 AM, September 03, 2008  
Blogger Rob said...

"Thus?" Are you too obtuse to understand that I responded directly to your question?

I am assuming this is the same "anonymous" that I am responding to. If this is another anon, pay attention to the thread before posting.

9:18 AM, September 03, 2008  
Blogger Gayle said...

There are far too many anonymous comments here for this thread to be coherent. It makes for difficult reading. Couldn't you who are posting anonymously just make up a name? Please?

10:23 AM, September 03, 2008  
Blogger Rob said...

Amen Gayle. Left, Right, or Whatever, just make up a name if you are going to post.

11:19 AM, September 03, 2008  
Blogger Lista said...

I'm getting so tired of the water breaking issue. I think that the author of this blog has responded whether well to this issue. I really wish that you would just drop it.

That's a very interesting point about the unmarried daughter not being so much of an issue if the candidate had been a man and it is so true. Amen to the statement that it is really none of our business.

Another Anonymous Comment,

"a 4 month old disabled infant left with someone else to raise"

Yeh, most Democrats would conclude that it would have been better if this infant was dead; killed in abortion.

The rest of that comment sounds sort of sexist in that women should not work, but just stay home and raise their children.

1:25 PM, September 03, 2008  
Anonymous Me said...

"Thus" anonymous wasn't me (Sep 2,8:35 PM and Sep 2, 9:14 PM).

1:29 PM, September 03, 2008  
Blogger Rob said...

Like I have said - people can make up their own minds about the water breaking issue. However, from a purely medical perspective - there is no legitimate doctor in the world who would support her decision.

lista - so your position is that Palin is being questioned because she is a woman? If you are suggesting that a different standard should apply to her than all other candidates because she is a woman, then you are the sexist.

I can speak for myself - I have made it a priority in my life to make sure that I spend a lot of time with my two elementary-school kids. My wife and I have both made sacrifices in our professional life to do so. We literally turn down job offers and consulting assignments that could bring us more money or which offer us more power.

If my wife and I had a newborn with Down Syndrome and a pregnant daughter who we also needed to plan a wedding for, we certainly would make a different decision than Palin and her husband.

However, even if the kids are well cared for, the big reason that Palin is being criticized is that she wants to impose her "values" that include abstinence only education rather than a scientifically based sex ed policy. If it didn't work for the Palin family, why should the rest of us have to deal with it?

1:42 PM, September 03, 2008  
Blogger Lista said...

I was only saying that only a women would be expected to stay home and raise her 5 kids. That would have never been said about a male candidate.

Whether a Conservative male candidate that believed in the Abstinence only program would have gotten the same response, well Ok, I admit that was an interesting point.

It almost sounds as if you think that no politician should ever be elected that has kids. Do you really believe that?

The Abstinence only issue is only one of the issues that she believes in, though if you are a democrat and disagree with a lot of her Republican ideas, that doesn't surprise me. Fortunately, there are a lot of Republicans who do agree with what she stands for.

2:02 PM, September 03, 2008  
Blogger Rob said...

I think both Palins have some challenges to deal with in their home. If Todd Palin was running, I would say he should consider dealing with his domestic issues - just as I think Sarah should do.

I have no problem with politicians having kids. But, if you have a politician whose home life appears to be suspect, it seems odd to me why you would expect them to be accepted as a good example of family values and a reasonable advocate for family values policies.

If abstinence-only clearly didn't work for her daughter, why should Americans who disagree be expected to sit by and just accept an abstinence-only candidate for the nation?

I get it, you agree with her making the decision to leave the care of her newborn Down Syndrome son to others (that has to happen if Sarah is actually going to work as the VP), and you have no real issue with her teenage daughter's underage drinking and her pregnancy. For many folks (including many Republicans that I know), they find this candidate to be a poor example of family values, not to mention the fiscal question marks, her book banning efforts (that is the latest news today), or her problems with troopergate.

4:32 PM, September 03, 2008  
Blogger Lista said...

We have dirt on Obama too, but I don't like to play the mud slinging game.

8:13 PM, September 03, 2008  
Blogger Rob said...

That's great to know. I don't think it is mudslinging to talk about her positions on issues, her legal issues, her decision-making, and her questionable political and economic record.

She is running for VP of the United States of America.

9:02 PM, September 03, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McCain has made opposition to pork-barrel spending a central theme of his 2008 campaign. "Earmarking deprives federal agencies of scarce resources, at the whim of individual members of Congress," McCain has said.

But records show that Palin -- first as mayor of Wasilla and recently as governor of Alaska -- was far from shy about pursuing tens of millions in earmarks for her town, her region and her state.

In 2001, McCain's list of spending that had been approved without the normal budget scrutiny included a $500,000 earmark for a public transportation project in Wasilla. The Arizona senator targeted $1 million in a 2002 spending bill for an emergency communications center in town -- one that local law enforcement has said is redundant and creates confusion.

McCain also criticized $450,000 set aside for an agricultural processing facility in Wasilla that was requested during Palin's tenure as mayor and cleared Congress soon after she left office in 2002.

8:56 AM, September 04, 2008  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In regard to children...if you push "Abstinance Only - Sex Education" on your state and your child ends up a pregnant teen, that is incredibly relevant.

If you tout your son's enlistment but want everyone to ignore your other children's troubles, then that is hypocracy.

If, when you have a down syndrome newborn and a pregnant teen, decide to commit to the time consuming prospect of running our nation instead of being available to your children, father or mother, that is selfish! Nothing sexist about it. None of the other candidates children are special needs. None sought the presidency under such conditions.

9:02 AM, September 04, 2008  
Blogger Jow Lindsay said...

April 15 is my birthday!

9:34 AM, September 04, 2008  
Blogger Rebekah said...

I see that this has been debated- but I will add my comment anyway.

Talk about a hypocritical bunch. First off- how many of these news media anchors/ reporters live their job 24/7 and still have families? Seems to me a mainstream anchor is quite a busy person. How can they do that and be 'good parents'?

And what is the big deal with 17 and pregnant? Is it because she is pregnant? Or because she had pre-marital sex? Seems to be getting pregnant is just gettin your hand caught in the cookie jar- everyone knows what you've been doing.

And in today's society, what is the percentage rate of teenage sex? Schools are giving 6th grade girls pills to prevent cervical cancer caused by engaging in sex too early in life or by having too many different partners- so kids are being told its ok if they decide to have sex, they just can't get pregnant.

Very hypocritical if you ask me- and for the record, my parents brought me up with strong family values but I still ended up pregnant at 19- that was my fault, not theirs.

9:59 AM, September 04, 2008  
Blogger Lista said...

You know, Rob and Anonymous,

There is no such thing as a working mom who does not leave her children to the care of others while at work. Most of Palin's kids are old enough to help look after the baby. At the RNC, the baby did not appear at all to be lacking in love.

Also, her pregnant daughter is marrying the baby's father, so I think you guys have blown this thing way out of porportion.

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