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Wednesday, April 16, 2008


I hesitated to write about Carter's trip to the Middle East to meet with leaders of the terrorist group Hamas because the last thing this meeting deserves is publicity. I have noticed that coverage of his trip has been sparse and deservedly so.

Yet the total ramification of this unauthorized meeting with a recognized terrorist group goes far beyond just ignoring the ramblings of an ex-president who undermines US policy and has become a joke because of his continual search for yet another 15 minutes in the news.

The White House specifically asked him NOT to make the trip. The State Department specifically asked him NOT to make the trip. A bipartisan group of 50 Congressman sent a letter to Carter beseeching him NOT to meet with Hamas and listed 26 Americans who have been killed by direct order of the very Hamas leader Carter is meeting with. Israel asked him NOT to meet with Hamas. In fact the only Israeli official who would meet with Carter, President Shimon Peres, scolded Carter for the planned meeting.

Yet Carter still insists on the meeting. He has already been seen embracing a key Hamas leader, Nasser Shaer and meeting in a closed door session with him. Shaer summed up the feelings of Hamas concerning why they see the meeting with Carter as helpful for them when he said, "Carter has weight and respect, and I hope he'll have a role and effect on the Palestinian problem." I disagree with the word , "respect, " because he has lost a considerable amount of that because of his past actions and this trip diminishes it even more.

He has placed a wreath on the grave of terrorist and former PLO leader Yassar Arafat praising him as a man who fought for, "just causes." So the murder of innocent women and children, thousands of Israelis and the looting of billions of dollars from the very Palestinians he claimed to serve are considered, " just causes, " by Jimmy Carter ?

Carter will travel to Egypt where he will meet with Hamas leaders living in exile after their, "government, " in the Gaza strip unraveled last year in favor of the recognized Palestinian government under President Mahmoud Abbas.

Carter's meeting with Hamas not only undermines US and Israeli policy concerning the terrorist group but it countermands all ongoing processes in the region both by Israel, the recognized Palestinian government and most importantly the US State Department. In addition his meeting dignifies a terrorist group that the world recognizes as such and not as a viable government entity.

Hamas has refused to renounce terrorism and also refuses to recognize Israels right to exists and as such The United States and most world governments list them as a terrorist organization. They are supported by both Iran and Syria also recognized as teroorist States. Their, (Hamas), actions in killing innocents by homicide bombings and other such terrorist attacks also confirms their terrorist classification.

Carter's meeting legitimizes this group and is in direct conflict with US policy toward a known terrorist entity and the longstanding policy of the US to NOT negotiate with terrorists. In many respects Carter's meeting with Hamas satisfies the Constitutional description of treason.

Article III Section 3 of the United States Constitution states, " Treason against The United States consist only in levying War against them, or in adhearing to their enemies, giving Aid and Comfort."

If this meeting by Carter does NOT fall under the , "aid and comfort, " clause then nothing does. He is aiding a recognized murderer of American citizens, a recognized and admitted enemy of the United States and a known terrorist group in a time of war. While Hamas is not directly involved with the US in the War on Terror, the overtures that it presents to those terrorist entities that we are fighting is that The United States WILL negotiate because a former President has negotiated with Hamas.

From a historical perspective what if former President Herbert Hoover had traveled to Germany or Japan in 1941 and negotiated with Hitler or Tojo ? Would that have been considered treason ? Absolutely ! While Hamas is not in a declared war with The United States the ramifications of Carter's meetings are similar to a hypothetical situation as mentioned with Hoover and Hitler or Tojo.

Jimmy Carter was a joke as President and he has become an even bigger joke as an ex-president. The problem now is that joke is threatening US policy, security and our ability to assist in the trouble in the Middle East. He has turned his back on his country, our allies and persists on helping enemies of The United States. That my friends IS TREASON!!

Ken Taylor


Blogger Gayle said...

I said the same thing to Walt yesterday, Ken: "Carter is a traitor!" I'm afraid I didn't say it that nicely though. This idiot makes me so angry! Someone needs to inform the loony toon that he's not the President anymore. He belongs either in a nut house (how appropriate!) or jail!

10:02 AM, April 16, 2008  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Agreed Gayle!!

10:09 AM, April 16, 2008  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Jimmy is on his own on this one.

That idiot will get no protection from Israel.

I posted on this once and decided myself this visit doesnt deserve a second post.

The worst President we ever had is out there making a complete ass of himself. Let him.

This is however the Liberal view of things, they want to crawl to our enemies on thier knees, and give legitamacy to terrorists, and destroy any gains we have made by isolating these thugs.

This is what we will get with a Liberal administration!

1:39 PM, April 16, 2008  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

Carter's competing with his own presidential legacy: "Can I do more damage today as a former president than I did as president?"

4:19 PM, April 16, 2008  
Blogger American said...

Great post Ken, with you all the way… Of course this is not the first time Carter has met with Hamas’s senior leadership, recall Ramallah in 2006, after the group won the Palestinian elections. I’m beginning to think, why doesn’t he just move to Gaza given he seems to like the place so much, sure they would welcome him with hugs and kisses and he’d be safe amongst the “peace loving”…I wish they would actually keep him there…Carters actions do amount to treason! Here’s an interesting link:

10:57 PM, April 16, 2008  
Anonymous Peter said...

There is no question that Hamas openly embraces anti-semitism and that its militant wing has shown little compunction about engaging in terrorist activities. Be clear that this post offers no endorsement of Hamas.

But I'm afraid I disagree with you on several points. First of all, in regards to your characterization of Hamas "not as a viable government entity," I will beg you to recall that Hamas party members legitimately won democratic elections to control the Palestinian Authority. Until fighting broke out in Gaza and Abbas dismissed Hamas' government, Hamas WAS "a viable government entity," even if not of a recognized state per se. It is pertinent to point out that Olmert’s meetings with Abbas suggests Israel’s own recognition of the Palestinian Authority.

Second of all, I'm not sure how Carter’s meeting with Hamas' leadership constitutes "giving aid and comfort" to our enemies. You say yourself that Hamas is not part of our "War on Terror" (which is to say, not at war with the United States), only that Carter's meeting aids other terrorist groups by suggesting that Americans "WILL negotiate." Two points on this. First of all, as you point out, Carter clearly does not represent the US government, and therefore these "negotiations," as you call them, are neither official nor binding, and terrorist groups have no reason to expect quarter from the current US government. Second of all, if by interacting with one group Carter indirectly provides "comfort" to others, one might say by that logic that the current administration is guilty of treason -- after all, there was no Al Qaeda in Iraq before we invaded, was there? The war in Iraq has been a boon to terrorist recruiters there, and unlike Hamas, they have a vested interest in attacking Americans.

Finally a practical point - how do you mitigate a conflict by ignoring its major players? According to CNN: “U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said she found it ‘hard to understand what is going to be gained by having discussions with Hamas about peace when Hamas is in fact the impediment to peace.’” This comment ought to show us definitively that the current administration is diplomatically brain dead. It should be self-evident that conflict resolution necessarily involves addressing the conflicting parties. The Clinton administration met with IRA members to negotiate peace in Northern Ireland. President Reagan, whom you have adoringly pictured on this website, repeatedly met quite publicly with Mikhail Gorbachev, leader of “the Evil Empire,” for God’s sake. Was Reagan a treasonous Communist sympathizer?

The Israeli people at least seem to understand. According to a poll taken in February of this year, 64% of Israelis want their government to engage in direct talks with Hamas ( The Israelis face terrorist threats daily. I suppose you would call them terrorist sympathizers too?

11:43 PM, April 16, 2008  
Blogger google said...

Now previously unavailable information about nuclear arsenal size has been given to Hamas and USA enemies by Jimmy Carter. This clearly aids the Iranians in building their nuke arsenal to use against us and our friends. Providing nuclear information makes it clear: Carter's intent is treasonous. He should be prosecuted.

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