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HISTORICAL QUOTE OF THE WEEK - "Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other." ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Sunday, September 23, 2007


With the major focus for the 2008 Presidential election centering around the War accompanied by continual maneuverings from Democrats in Congress to unsuccessfully force a surrender in Iraq, Democrat Presidential candidates and the Congressional Majority are talking about and proposing a very subtle but dangerous attack against the very foundation of our nation.

While terrorism poses a severe threat to our nation, this attack by Democrats is equally as dangerous but not nearly as obvious. Their attack does not crumble buildings or kill our people but instead erodes the very fabric of our society which in essence if allowed to flourish will arrive at the same goal in many respects as Islamic fascism for this nation, the end of The United States as a world power and the elimination of our free society.

Islamic fascism has as its goal the total destruction and/or conversion of The United States and her people to Islam. The goal of Democrats while sparing the death of our people is similarly destructive to this nation and that goal is Socialism. Under the Democrat goal, the nation will survive as a government which differs from the Islamic goal of elimination, but that government will be all powerful, encompassing every aspect of American life with liberal Democrats controlling the lives of every citizen while eliminating the freedoms and liberties that are afforded us by the Constitution.

This advance to Socialism has been a subtle yet continual attack against our free Republic for many years. It has gradually whittled away many of our Constitutional rights by giving nearly unlimited power to the Federal Government. The first major advance to Socialism came with FDR's New Deal and the introduction of Social Security and the Welfare State. Social Security was a plan that even FDR's mother refused to participate in and to keep it from becoming a PR problem for a very socialistic President, Roosevelt actually paid his mother's Social Security tax for her.

This attack went virtually unchecked because of the Great Depression and by the time the Depression ended with the onset of WWII Americans had grown accustomed to the programs and had accepted them as part of the natural way of life. The next major attack for the advance of Socialism came with LBJ's Great Society which initiated Johnson's War on Poverty that introduced massive welfare programs that to this day leave a large number of Americans so dependant on the government that they have forgotten or never learned how to care for themselves.

Other initiatives that Johnson introduced encompassed federal control of transportation, which until that time had been handled mostly at the state level, federal controls on education, again taking control from the state and of course the huge Medicare and Medicaid entitlements.

Several of these programs were either eliminated or reduced during the Reagan Presidency as he made great strides in reducing the size and scope of the federal government. Unfortunately some of this Socialism that has been a Democrat stalwart worked its way into the GOP during the first Bush term as Congress passed a massive prescription drug entitlement which Democrats were only all to willing to embrace.

Now the 2008 Presidential race has begun in earnest and dangerous proposals by every Democrat candidate reek of Socialism, especially Hillary Care, Obama Medicine and Edwards Preventative Medicine. Candidate proposals constantly invoke wording like, "mandate, " and "requirement." For instance under Hillary Care every American will be required to have papers proving health care coverage or they will not be allowed to work. Edwards will require government mandated , "preventative, " doctors visits or face some form of financial punishment.

Their Universal Health Care proposals are just the tip of the iceberg in the Democrat plan to erode America into a Socialist state that is controlled by the federal government. Every proposal that is made by candidates and the Congress now or a future Democrat Congress call for tax increases which make the American people the financial slaves to the power of the government.

Fred Thompson has eluded to this slide to Socialism with his campaign slogan, " A government that is large enough to do everything for us, is powerful enough to do anything to us." A truer statement about socialized government has never been made.

Socialism as proposed by Democrats erodes every freedom and liberty that our Constitution by law allows us and turns the power of the people over to the control of the Federal Government. WWII gives us a perfect example of two results that Socialism can have on citizens and the nation they live in. Two distinct results of Socialism in Europe before WWII revealed itself through the occupation of Europe by Nazi Germany. The people had grown so dependant to government that both Germany and Italy readily accepted Socialized dictatorships in Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolph Hitler in Germany. Of course other factors attributed to their rise, but Socialism blinded the nations to the dangerous results.

Other Socialistic nations like France, Belgium, Poland and Austria had become so weak militarily that they were quickly bowled over by the advance of the Nazi Juggernaut. The only government in Europe that stood strong against the Socialist/Fascist advance was Great Britain under Winston Churchill. Their stance proved to be enough to involve other free Nations especially The United States which brought about the defeat of Nazi Germany and Italy. Yet Socialism in Europe still has allowed for may weak nations who still depend on United States strength for defense.

Democrats like Hillary Clinton and Barak Obama and the remainder of the 08 liberal candidates have shown in this last week their disdain for the military through their failure to condemn the add against General Patraeus by in the New York Times. Clinton and Dodd voted AGAINST a Senate resolution condemning the add and supporting Patraeus and the troops while Obama and Biden did not even have the guts enough to vote their stance but in campaign appearances last week both complained about the attack on the add and garnered that into their anti-war stance and yet another attack against the President and the war.

This weakness by Democrats in backing the military combined with their obvious plan to Socialize America creates an enemy within our nation that if allowed to have absolute power through the winning of The White House and retaining or adding to their majority in Congress in 2008 will quickly send us down the dangerous path to American Socialism and weaken us from a military stand point while using appeasement and compromise with our enemies such as Islamic Fascists which eventually could lead to the end of our Super Power status and possibly a victory for Islam and the conversion of America.

It is certain that if they are given this control and power in 2008 by voters that Socialism will be our lot, disguised by Health Care, and other legislation that increases and eventually completely hands over control of every aspect of our life to a Democrat controlled Federal Government.

Abraham Lincoln once stated, "At what point shall we expect the approach of danger? By what means shall we fortify against it? Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant, to step the Ocean, and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa combined, could not by force, take a drink from the Ohio, or make a track on the Blue Ridge. At what point, then, is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer, if it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us. It cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide. "

Democrat Socialism is that danger and that suicide that President Lincoln warned about. We are a nation of freemen and women who have been allowed by law though our Constitution to live in a nation, "of the people, by the people and for the people." The Democrats want through their all encompassing government take the strength of the people and by government regulation, entitlements and control transfer the true power of this Nation from the people to the government making each of us Socialistic slaves to a Democrat controlled Federal Government!

Ken Taylor


Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Awsome Post Ken,

I cant believe these Democrats believe these socialist plans, especially the one where you have to show proof of health insurance just to get a job?

This is insane.

What about those that need a job in order to pay for health insurance? Penalize them and fine them?

This is so contradictory I dont believe the Democrats even believe in this cockamaymee plan!

And if they do they are nuts!

2:02 PM, September 23, 2007  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

The sad truth is that their very socialistic ideas are what blind the rank and file to the truth of the consequences of their plans!

8:21 PM, September 23, 2007  
Blogger Concerned Citizen said...

Well, what do you expect Ken when one of Hillary's major campaign ideas is that privatization will never be allowed for anything when she is in offie and that it is time to end this private ownership society and move to a more communally involved one?

Doesn't that say it all?

4:29 PM, September 24, 2007  
Blogger Gayle said...

I think they do believe in it because they aren't rational people. Reason escapes them. If they were reasonable they wouldn't be who they are.

8:28 PM, September 24, 2007  
Blogger Rob said...

Hilarious. George W. Bush and the Republican Congress exploded spending and increased the size of government at an un-Godly rate and you fear liberals. Bush's most recent budget proposal to Congress is $2.9 trillion. The last year under Clinton the government spent under $1.8 trillion total. The $2.9 trillion does not include the costs for Iraq which he finances through emergency supplementals.

The Department of Homeland Security, NCLB, and Medicare Part D are boondoggle Bush creations that are literally producing hundreds of billions of dollars in new government waste that did not exist prior to Bush.

Bush has made it possible for the government to now monitor Americans' phone calls, their travel habits, and who knows whatever else. By executive order, he has even issued the president more power if there is a national emergency under NSPD-51 (just Google it and read for yourself). Basically, if there is a terrorist attack, the president (whoever that is now or in the future) can basically dissolve the government, take control, disregard Congress and just rule as he/she chooses.

9:56 PM, September 24, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow great blog Ken! And I couldn't agree more. If we don't realize it for the menace that it would eventually destroy our country. WIth us weakened imagine the repercussions. Terror would reign and we would be helpless to stop it. That the libs are so blinded by that is truly scary!

12:00 AM, September 25, 2007  
Blogger Concerned Citizen said...


You are an idiot and can obviosly not read. The NSPD-51 establishes paths of continuity for operations of the federal government, ensuring the continued operations of each branch and a distribution of assest during an emergency situation.

It does not allow for dissolution of the government in ANY WAY and only allows limited expanded powers to the Presidency for a finite period of time. The primary responsibility of the document is listed in Seciton 5(a) Ensuring the continued functioning of our form of government under the Constitution, including the functioning of the three separate branches of government;

Anyway, yes. We fear liberals who want to end private ownership, destroy our healthcare system, capitulate and surrender to terrorism, restrict free speech, ect.

Oh and just to let you know, you ignorant leftwing nut, Bush did not make it possible for the governnment to monitor the phone calls of private citizens, unless thos citizens are in communitcation with a foreign terrorist suspect. The fraking NSA program was a data mining operations and wiretapping of any line it detected required a FISA warrant. Any wiretap occuring before a warrant was issued, had 48 hours to be justified before the FISA court which determined the probable cause for the tap. If it found that probable casue had not existed, nothing from the tap could be used.

12:10 PM, September 25, 2007  
Blogger Robert said...

Health care is mandatory to work in the US, but it is racist to ask for a social security verification.

Anyone else want to join me in stealing the U.S. Constitution, taking over a small country,and trying the great experiment again? We went wrong somewhere about 1913, and we need to try this liberty thing again.

12:56 PM, September 25, 2007  
Blogger Rob said...

CC, please refrain from name calling. It is boorish behavior that lends no credance to your argument and is extremely childish. I don't come on this blog and call people names because I disagree with their political views. I would encourage you to elevate yourself to a higher standard.

There is no substantive argument one can make about how much Bush has increased government spending - that is a matter of fact. I will assume that you agree because you don't take any issue with that.

No matter what you want to claim, if you actually read the NSPD-51 and you understand what it is saying, then it is clear that the President has the sole authority without consultation with anyone else to essentially set the rules and operate the vast bureaucracy of the executive branch without regard for other branches of government.

The document is clearly a grab for power - remember that Hillary will have the same powers that are described in the document. No matter who is is the President, this directive is dangerous. Section 9 basically says points out that President will take over according to this plan, but that the other branches of government can come up with their own plans in the case of an emergency. There is no coordination between the three branches of government for a combined plan, which makes this plan dangerous.

Congress should take up the issue and work with the other branches of government to establish the law of the land that would govern in cases of national crisis. Even the definition of when the President can implement the plan is extremely vague. The president can implement the plan when there is a "Catastrophic Emergency" which "means any incident, regardless of location, that results in extraordinary levels of mass casualties, damage, or disruption severely affecting the U.S. population, infrastructure, environment, economy, or government functions." If you can explain to me specifically what this means let me know. Does it man 10,000 deaths? 100,000 deaths? 1 million?. If the Golden Gate Bridge is destroyed is that enough to implement the plan?

If you don't agree with me that is fine, but please explain to me how you expect the courts and legislative body to resolve the power grab once it is made. Do you believe that Congress should sue the President in Court after an attack?

2:00 PM, September 25, 2007  
Blogger Concerned Citizen said...

Section 9 basically says points out that President will take over according to this plan, but that the other branches of government can come up with their own plans in the case of an emergency. There is no coordination between the three branches of government for a combined plan, which makes this plan dangerous.

So the President will take over control of the Executive Branch of government in a time of Emergency? Uhm, wow. Seeing as how he is essentially in charge either directly or indirectly of all aspects of the Executive branch now, that doesn't seem like much of a stretch.

The other branches of government are encouraged to come up with thier own plans? Really, well that is probably because the executive branch has no control over the actions of the other brances and cannot direct thier actions.

You do realize that this document is nothing compared the power that the Presidency already holds by the declaration of martial law.

The courts and legislature should do as NSPD-51 suggests and construct their own continuity directives to ensure the efficeint functionality in such a emergency. I would not be shocked to learn that this is already in place.

I have read the document, twice before and once more since you mentioned it.

As to the definition of 'Catastophic Emergency,' how would you have them define this? This is designed to ensure functionality and operations of the federal government during a time of crisis. Would you have them spell out to the letter exactly what conditions were acceptable? Then when the sky is falling aroud us you would be the first to scream as to why the federal government did not act sooner. Well, it will be because Tragedy X had only cost 9,850 lives, still 150 short of giving the President the ability to act and protect the government. This has to be broadly defined for it to be effective. Thinking it could be done otherwise is naive and would make the policy virtually useless.

2:50 PM, September 25, 2007  
Blogger Rob said...

So basically, you accept the fact that the President can disregard any oversight, set aside all prior laws that govern the U.S. military, the Dept. of Justice, and federal agencies such as Homeland Security, EPA, FEMA, GSA, TSA, etc. when he/she at his/her sole descretion decides. Nice.

A more appropriate, democrat, and constitutionally sound plan would be for the three branches to come together and develop a plan.

In addition, leaving the decision as to what a "Catastrophic Emergency" is to the president - any president - presents the ultimate conflict of interest. Gee, let me see, I can decide to take over control of the government at my sole descretion if I personally decide there is a catastrophic emergency. I don't have to consult anyone else to implement this plan. That doesn't strike you as inherently ripe for abuse?

Please show me where the President has authority to implement Martial Law. Article 1, Section 9 of the U.S. Constitution grants the legislative branch the authority to suspend Habeas Corpus in times of rebellion, and Article 1, Section 8 give Congress the authority to raise armies and maintain the navy. In addition, if Martial Law was implemented it would be done through Congress - the people's body. Article 1, Section 8 specifically states that Congress has the power "To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions."

That power does not reside with the President.

4:26 PM, September 25, 2007  
Blogger Wholesome Blogger said...

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9:46 PM, September 25, 2007  
Blogger Wholesome Blogger said...

Doctors need to take health care back and start going into private practice. Health care needs to be put back into a free market model, where the service provider and customer can work out their own arrangements.
The established practice (starting in late'80s) of physicians being employed by insurance companies and HMO institutions is creating an artificial physician shortage in an effort to ration care. When I was in medical school, it was UNETHICAL for a physician to be employed by an insurance company.
With a government takeover of health care this rationing process will only expand.
Sorry, had to fix a typ-o.
Still, in my beta-stage of blogging.

9:51 PM, September 25, 2007  
Blogger Concerned Citizen said...

Do you understand the definition of Martial Law?

Allow me:

Miram-Webster's Dictionary of Law

mar·tial law

1 : the law applied in occupied territory by the military authority of the occupying power
2 : the law administered by military forces that is invoked by a government in an emergency when civilian law enforcement agencies are unable to maintain public order and safety

The President of the United States is the direct commander of all its military forces, save for the National Guard units, except under the provisions of the John Warner National Defense Authorization, which actually allows for direct federal control of the Guard units without the permission of their States during a time of emergency. Therefor since martial law is conducted under military rule, it has to be initiated by the military command structure. Congress has NO direct control over the military and cannot enact martial law. I agree that they have the right to suspend habeus corpus, but that is not the same.

The President has the de facto ability to institute martial law since he is the Commander in Chief of the Armed Services. There are zero guidelines for the enactment of martial law, thus it could be enacted for an even wider set of possibilities that the above Act. There has been only one case of a President declaring martial law in this country and it was limited in scope to the Southern states after the Civil War.

So yeah, the President already has the power to suspend civilian control of the government and institute martial law. Who ever would do such a thing had better have a God damned good reason for doing so or he could easily face treason charges when control was returned to the civilian government. Martial law is MUCH more dangerous of a power than the above act.

You never addressed the issue of the NSA programs and the paranoid claims of the government monitoring our phone calls. We do that less now than we did under Clinton.

12:19 AM, September 26, 2007  
Blogger Rob said...

I'm sorry friend, but the President of the United States does not have the legal or constitutional authority to impose Martial Law. There are numerous laws restricting military actions within domestic borders, including but not limited to the Posse Comitatus Act.

We're not going to agree on this and there are some differences of opinion among legal scholars. However, it is a fact that in 1866 the Supreme Court ruled that Lincoln's imposition of martial law - through the suspension of habeas corpus - was unconstitutional. See ex parte Milligan (1866).

Let me ask you a question. Why do you suspect the Bush administration is so adamant about granting legal immunity to telecommunications companies for their cooperatiion with Bush's warrantless wiretapping program? He is insisting that it be a part of the changes that he wants to make permanent to FISA. This is happening right now.

It is pretty obvious that there was signficant illegal activity and that he wants Congress to give blanket protections after the fact for CYA purposes.

If you believe in big government, that is unaccountable and which snoops into the personal lives of citizens, then warrantless wiretapping is for you. By definition, it is warrantless and removes simple privacy protections. That is not paranoia, that is a simple fact.

12:54 PM, September 26, 2007  
Blogger Concerned Citizen said...

By definition it was not warrantless wiretapping and monitored no substance of the communications with out direct FISA approval.

The NSA intercept porgrams was a data mining operation that sifted through millions of telecom transactions looking for patterns of datat. It searched for numbers that were incontact with know or suspected terrorist points of contact. Once a pattern was found, the government had to go to the FISA court for a warrant to initiate the wiretap, unless it was believe that immediate action was required to prevent an terrorist action. Even then a warrant had to be obtained within 48 hours of the action, else all evidence collected from said action would become unusable. The telecom records used violate no provacy laws since those records are owned by the telecom companies and are in no way garunteed protection of ANY kind under ANY existing privacy laws. They own those numbers and have the freedom to do as they choose with them the moment you signed the contract with your carrier.

You need to have a better understanding about the programs which you argue before you argue them.

If you believe in big government, that is unaccountable and which snoops into the personal lives of citizens, then warrantless wiretapping is for you.

Oh, so you mean like the ECHELON program under Clinton which was used to monitor the actual substance of voice and electronic communications of United States citizens. This program used an algorithm to pick out key words and monitor conversations where those words were found. There were others, but this is the most well known one under Clinton that the left continues to make excuses for. It was far more intrusive than anything this adminsitration has done.

Now about the Posse Comitatus Act, the John Warner National Defense Authorization has already undone many aspects of that. As for your argument about Martial Law, by its definition, and I never said other wise, Constitutionally no one explicitly has the power to institute martial law. However, since martial law is a military operation and the POTUS is the CIC of all Armed Services, including the Guard after the JWNDA, the power to declare martial law does definitely reside with the President. The legality of such action may be debatable, but the power resides with the CIC.

Also, the declaration of Martial Law does not require the suspension of habeus corpus, although the one time it has been employed in this country it was associated with that act. I will agree that Lincoln should have requested that Congress suspend habeus corpus since they had the constituional authority and right to do so at that time. However, that would not have precluded him from initiating military rule over the southern states and inacting martial law.

11:34 AM, September 27, 2007  
Blogger Rob said...

CC, if you are suggesting that warrantless wiretapping never occured, you are just plain wrong. At best, we know that the current wiretapping rules are different and there has been some consultation with the FISA court; however since the rules are not known they still may be unconstitutional. That is why there is currently an ACLU lawsuit moving forward to (1) obtain a final ruling on the administration's prior practices, and (2) to make the current rules known.

There are still major issues that need to get resolved with FISA - such as the blanket immunity for past illegal acts. There certainly is a lack of clarity about what is going on and what went on. However, as I pointed out earlier, the fact that Bush wants to extend blanket legal immunity points to the fact that there were illegal activities.

To my knowledge, the Senate Judiciary Committee still has not seen the current operational rules. They have been explicitly rebuffed by the administration. So at best, we can only say that we don't know what is going on.

I have heard various things about the ECHELON program - but that discussion is irrelevant. "Clinton did it" is not a legal, moral, or constitutional argument for Bush's warrantless wiretapping.

As for martial law, we simply disagree. Lincoln could not have enacted martial law without the advice and consent of Congress. Had he done so, and he were challenged in Court, he would likely have lost. At the very least, the Constitution clearly requires legislative input when the executive decides to set aside constitutional protections.

If the framers felt otherwise, they would have explicitly said so - but the idea that a single unitary executive would have been given that authority is simply preposterous. Why in the world would the framers allow such a thing when they had just fought a war against the tyrannical rule of a King?

12:35 PM, September 27, 2007  
Blogger Concerned Citizen said...

As far as the warantless wiretapping, the administration has already shown where it followed the proecedures set by the FISA court at the time. Again, as I previously stated, when a warrentless wiretap occurred, the agency had 48 hours post action to present the court with justification and probable cause for the action, else it was thrown out. Many such actions were dismissed for not having been enough to issue a warrant for, but most of the actions were granted a post action warrant. This was perfectly legal under the FISA rulings at the time. Not to mention that technically no warrant is needed if the communications involve sources outside of this nation. A warrant is only required when communications occur between two parties internal to the United States, not one internal and one external. You have no protection of privacy in that case.

My point about ECHELON is that even though the actions taken by this administration fall far short of the actions taken by previous ones and have been shown to have been operating with in the law at that time, you insist on calling them something that they are not.

ECHELON was designed to be a warrantless wiretapping program on American citizens. If that had been the intent of this adminsitration, why not re-enact an existing program with far more capabilities than the one currently in place. The NSA program by comparrison to ECHELON is weak and time consuming, but is entirely legal, a test where ECHELON would fail.

Secondly, about the martial law, you are arguing legality while I am arguing practicallity and power. You said that Lincoln could not have enacted martial law without the advice and consent of Congress, yet he did so and regardless of arguments after the fact, the action still took place because he was the commander of the military taking the action. I have said multiple times that any President choosing to take this action had better have a damned good reason for it and I have not argued the legality, I have argued the ability.

Since the declaration of matial law is not expressly defined anywhere in our founding documents, the practice would be one of interpretation. In 1866 the Supreme Court ruled on Lincoln's suspension of habeus corpus when he declared martial law and found that he did not possess the right to do that. The Court did not state that he did not have the right to institute martial law, simply that he had no right to suspend habeus corpus. Those issue are not one and the same.

12:56 PM, September 27, 2007  
Blogger Rob said...

Three points.

1. You are just plain wrong about the warrantless wiretapping meeting FISA requirements. There are already several federal court rulings which demonstrate that illegal activity took place - that is also why Bush is pushing for blanket immunity for past actions. If everything was done legally, that would not be necessary.

2. The whole issue of ECHELON is irrelevant.

3. By definition, martial law suspends habeus corpus. It eliminates all constitutional protections to due process. The bottom line is that the President of the U.S. does not have the right to unilaterally impose martial law. That would be unconstitutional and has been found to be so in the past. So I have no idea what point you are trying to make.

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