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Two Reagan conservatives who believe that the left has it wrong and just doesn't get it!

HISTORICAL QUOTE OF THE WEEK - "Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other." ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Tuesday, July 25, 2006


As the conflict continues to rage between Israel, Hezbollah and Hamas Syria has indicated that they are willing to talk in order to end the conflict. Syrian Ambassador Imad Moustapha has stated in an interview that several U.S. President's have visited Damascus with one on one talks and that the Bush administration is not willing to do so. He further indicated that if the administration were to show that willingness then Syria would engage in talks. SO WHAT ! The fact the the President nor any member of his administration are not willing to talk with Syria is by all means proper and good policy. It is well known that the current conflict is under the direct supervision of both Syria and Iran and both terrorist states have made no overtures to prove otherwise. In fact since the late 70's both Iran and Syria under Assad and son in Syria and the fanatical Islamic theocracy in Iran have financed, armed and provided personal and troops for a constant terror strategy against Israel and the west and now this strategy has once again brought war to the region. Though Hezbollah and Hamas are the entities fighting Israel, Iran and Syria are calling the shots. Talking diplomaticly with either Iran or Syria will accomplish nothing except appeasing both countries further and giving them a sense of accomplishment as they have forced, "the great satan, " into talks by their actions in Lebanon and Gaza.

The news Media has jumped on this indication by Syria as a means of gaining a peaceful solution to the conflict. Following are a few media quotes concerning Syria's, "offer."

JOHN MCLAUGHLIN: Syria is ready, willing, and has a history of dealing with the United States, but they don't want to be lectured to.

AMY ROBACH: Does the US have plans to speak directly to Syria?

JOE KLEIN: A Syrian official told me that they wanted to talk to us but we weren't interested in talking to them. We should be interested in talking to them.

TIM RUSSERT: Will the United States talk directly with Syria?

E.D. HILL: Syria sounds like they want to talk.

WOLF BLITZER: Is it wise right now to start engaging Syria and Iran directly?

Additionally Senator Christopher Dodd (D) chimed in on the Bush administrations unwillingness to engage in talks with the two terror states, " This sort of juvenile attitude that we're not going to talk to people we disagree with I think has contributed to the problems we're facing today."

Again what would talking to either country accomplish ? The United States, Israel and several European countries have talked with both Iran and Syria in the past with no results other than allowing both countries the time to develop their terror networks and the arms and means necessary to keep the Middle East in a constant upheaval and now war. When will those crying for talk realize that one cannot talk with a terrorist nor with any fanatical Islamic government or group ? They neither recognize agreements nor honor diplomatic results. Talking is only a means in which to deceive and hide their true intent and to gain the time necessary to accomplish what they are seeking. Whether that is the killing of Israelis and Americans, kidnapping the same or acquiring weapons or arming those who will carry out the fight. Iran and Syria have used this type of diplomatic tactic for decades and why would they do any different now ? They see talk as weakness and negotiation as victory which emboldens them further. The only way to deal with a terrorist or terrorist state is to eliminate their fighting capability whether that is personal, arms and equipment or transportation and communication means etc. Israel again understands this and is succeeding where diplomacy has and always will fail.

Ken Taylor


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5:11 PM, July 27, 2006  
Blogger Poison Pero said...

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12:17 AM, July 28, 2006  
Blogger Vern1966 said...

All the posturing and tough talk must feel really great, but it doesn't do anyone any good in terms of longer-term benefit. Grown-ups understand, whereas children might not, that in order to affect lasting peace, sometimes you need to talk with people you don't like. As is happening in Iraq, the longer this conflict in Lebanon drags on, the more deep-seeded and irreversible the damage becomes. The US has a responsibility to broker peace in the region, and it has done nothing at all in that regard during Bush's entire tenure. So tell me, has this policy that conservatives espouse of open hostility and diplomatic isolation resulted in a safer world? Does it feel like it? Since he's taken office, the world has spiraled into near-chaos. Perhaps if he took the task of brokering a solution to the Palestinian issue seriously, much of the tension in the region would dissipate. Instead, he's fiddling while Rome is burning.

11:19 AM, July 28, 2006  
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12:31 PM, July 28, 2006  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Vern, should the Clinton example be followed ? Treating a terrorist like Arrafat as a dignitary while all the time he was plotting with Hamas through the PLO for more terror strikes in Israel.

Or should he follow the Clinton example concerning Mogadishue and pull out when the job is not completed and before Iraq is fully ready? Bin Laden has stated that this pull out was his reasoning behind seeing that the U.S. did not have the backbone to fight him and directly lead to his planning for 9/11.

Or should he follow the failed diplomacy route that has never worked against Hezbollah and give then continual opportunity to control southern Lebanon and use Syrian and Iranian money and weapons to strike Israel?

Why should we continue to talk to Iran and Syria as have past administrations that have done nothing except give these terror states the time and ability to keep havoc in the region as they have for 30+ years. To blame Bush for this is not only wrong but has no basis because the root problem has never been dealt with and talking with the same people has not accomplished anything.


4:47 PM, July 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Vern can't be American. He's the only sane person on this blog. The rest of you yankee zombies are murderous fascist plutocratic theives who don't have a clue about international diplomacy. A bunch of satan loving backwater hicks sliming the entire world with your evil fertilizer. america is based on some of the most massive lies anyone could perpetrate. Pearl Harbor was no surprise. You evil jagoffs have been manipulating world oil forever. You embargoed the Japanese petroleum in South East Asia combined with Tommy Corcoran lobbying the usa government to supply millions of dollars for the Chinese revolutionaries to fight the Japanese. You freaks lie about everything, naziesquely orwellian roveianlly genocidal thieves. Hey you're the best at something.

8:21 PM, July 29, 2006  
Blogger Vern1966 said...

Phew...thanks for the "compliment", anonymous. I think. Something's telling me we might not be quite on the same side, though. You see, I don't think you portray America realistically by only pointing out the crap we've pulled over the years. No, we aren't perfect, but we are really good at compensating for shortcomings, and even better at self-correction. That's the power of democracy. That's why I fear so much for it's safety at the hands of Republicans.

6:04 PM, July 31, 2006  
Blogger Vern1966 said...

Although I think it would be easy to find fault with any tenure at governing foreign policy (as you point out in your examples), those faults, by degree, are what you might call an "acceptable margin of error", to be somewhat clinical. The main thrust of the argument among proponents of our current aggressive policy is this -- that 9/11 was the last straw, the tipping point of a failed policy direction. I just don't see it that way. I do not downplay the tragedy or the significance of it. I only think that we have veered way off course in the way we have approached the problem of "the terrorists" by taking our eye off the ball. That "ball" being, specifically, Al Queda operations and Bin Laden. Both are thriving because of this administrations misdirected blunders.

6:13 PM, July 31, 2006  
Anonymous don said...

Did you ever try to talk to a pit bull straqining at the end of his chain? I'm glad to see that Bin Laden is thriving in his cave surrounded by 72 goats.

7:23 AM, August 09, 2006  
Anonymous david said...

in response to verne 1966. do you honestly think we are talking to the people of iraq?? this is coming from a very frustrated (independant) gulf war vet. and about the piit bull, please grow up

10:03 PM, October 06, 2006  
Anonymous david said...

verne, I owe you a sincere apology. we are on the same page and I only read your first and made an opinion on it. gut reation. please talk more. SANDERS FOR SENATE!!!

10:14 PM, October 06, 2006  
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