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Sunday, March 26, 2006


Democrats continually claim that they are the spokes people for the American people. In just about every sound bite that is aired on the news and printed in newspapers almost every Democrat quoted says something to the effect that , "this is not what the American people want." It does not matter what the subject is nor how the program is actually accepted or rejected by the American people, Democrats always claim that they speak for the American people. Surprisingly though these politicians that are driven by every poll that comes out and coincidently change their, "agenda, " in conjunction with that poll have yet to find a poll that says they speak for the American people. Personally I do not believe that ANY poll is a true measure of the American public because polls are conducted by people who have an opinion and thus that opinion can be used to manipulate the poll whether by the way the question is asked or by the percentages of people from the right or the left that are used in the poll. The only, "poll, " that counts and is a true measure of what the American people want is the final result on an election day. Yet the Democrats by their polling, ( let's face it 99% of the polling leans to the left), believe they speak for the American people. So just what do these liberal politicians actually speak ? Do they talk a game that is for the betterment of the country ? Do they propose anything that will deal with the pressing issues that we face as a nation ? Though the media continually idolizes Democrats as the saviors of the nation the only agenda that they truly have is one of political destruction and the ending of the Presidency of George W. Bush. Since he took the oath of office the left has had but one goal and that is to say and do whatever it takes to destroy this President and to defeat anything that he proposes, backs, plans or implements regardless of the consequences to the nation and the people that they so arrogantly claim to champion. If Bush is for it then they are against it. If Bush believes it is a success then the left claims it is a failure. If Bush proposes it then they claim it will destroy the country. An example of this liberal agenda came forward last week as the Republican House proposed legislation that will make being an illegal immigrant a crime rather than just a civil offense. The President also proposed similar action that will begin to crack down on the problem of illegal immigration. This is the most pressing problem that the American people are facing today and one that stirs the emotions of every American. Democrats have come out against the proposals though they claim to be strong on illegal immigration. Harry Reid the Senate Minority leader even stated that he would filibuster the legislation when it comes to the Senate. This commentary is not to discuss the merits of the legislation, though they are many, but to reveal the truth about what the left is attempting and what they will do if returned to the majority in November, which I believe is highly unlikely.

Since the election of President Bush the entire focus of the Democrats has been to destroy his Presidency. With the help of the media wing of the Democratic Party the left has continually tried to scandalize this administration, obstructed any and everything that the administration has and is doing and adding insult to injury undermining the war effort and the avenues that the President has legally used to protect this nation. Their obstructionist tactics and rhetoric have been a demoralizing force to our troops as the troops continually hear the political bantering that is daily spewed through the media that the very war they are fighting was entered by deceiving the American people. Yet the very same Democrats who today claim that the war is illegal with the same intelligence that the President used made the exact same case as the President both before the war and as far back as the previous administration. Now these same liberals who said exactly the same thing claim the President lied and are crying for his impeachment on the grounds that he lied to the American People and is using illegal means in , "domestic spying." Every one of these leftist demagogues know that the very rhetoric they are spewing is as false as the day is long yet they continually use this destructive agenda to claim they are speaking for the American people and to protect the nation from the corruption of the President and the Republican majority. All for the acquisition of power and the destruction of the Bush Presidency. Even now they are positioning themselves in the fervent belief that this web of deception and destruction they are weaving will place them in power in November and give them the ability to impeach the President and remove him from office.

Well I have news for these socialistic liberals who seek to destroy the very foundations of this nation by manipulating the Constitution for their own political gain and lust for power. We the people are not buying your lies. We see through your web of deception and realize that were you to gain the power for which you lust and control the House and the Senate then your liberal ideology will create havoc in every branch of the government as you bring about the socialistic form of America that you so believe in. Those who we fight now will once again become useless warrants on paper as you use the courts rather than the military to fight this enemy who wishes our destruction as a nation. You do not speak for me nor for the majority of the American people and I find it utterly offensive when you claim to be my defender and protector. Those who fight daily on the front lines of freedom wearing the uniforms that protect this nation are the true defenders of the American people. When you continue to undermine their mission by your rhetoric then you undermine the very American people you so claim to stand for. When you seek to destroy the very foundation of defense that is protecting this nation so bravely then you seek the destruction of the people who are the country. Political destruction does not win elections and we the people see your true intent and your lust for power and as long as this nation is a nation, "of the people, by the people and for the people, " then the politics of hatred and destruction will never gain our support.

Ken Taylor


Blogger Rob said...

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. I love it, I am wiping away the tears from my laughter this morning. You really have outdone yourself this time. Thanks for the laugh Ken.

Yes, you are on to us liberals. We hate America and seek to destroy the country. Our grand plan is to install our terrorist overlords as leaders, and just for fun eat Republican children.

Come on, get real. Your broad brush indictment of all Democrats is nothing more than paranoid delusions. I don't care if we have a Republican president if we have sound policies. You mistake legitimate criticism of Bush policies as hatred toward the man. As I have said before, I don't know the man, so how can I hate him? Let me go further, I don't hate you or Republicans - we just disagree. But, I suspect that many of the regulars to this blog hate me. That is unfortunate.

Let me ask you a question. If we cannot have civilized debate between Democrats and Republicans in this country, how the Hell can we expect Sunni and Shiite Iraqis to agree on anything when they have been at odds and in violent struggles for centuries?

Oh, and one correction. Bush is not for the House bill on immigration. Bush is for a "guest worker" program (i.e., amnesty).

11:13 AM, March 26, 2006  
Blogger MDConservative said...

"If we cannot have civilized debate between Democrats and Republicans in this country..."

So glad you asked Rob. That is a true point and I agree. So was it a Republican that claimed to have "killed the patriot act"? Is it Republicans running around shouting "incompetence"? Oh, is it the Republicans that love to call the President a "murderer"? Etc. Etc.

Which side is being civil? We got the debate going that is for sure. But the Democrats are lagging in that "civil" part.

11:52 AM, March 26, 2006  
Blogger Republican Aficionado said...

Rob, try for some new leadership in your party, that's what's holding the Democrats back from having civilized debate.

When has Bush ever wanted to give illegals amnesty? Please, cite some speech where he wants to give illegals amnesty. He wants a temporary guest worker program because there are a lot of jobs Americans won't do, and alot of our economy depends on those jobs. Americans exploit those people because its our dirty work, we as Americans don't want to do it, but Mexicans will.

It's not amnesty, and President Bush has made that clear, time and time again.

1:10 PM, March 26, 2006  
Blogger Republican Aficionado said...

Ken, I'm wiping away the tears because your Sunday Commentary was so beautiful. Rob, he wasn't broad brushing, he was going after your leadership. The Democratic leadership is really laughable. Everytime I see Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Howard Dean, and Hillary Clinton standing together, I see the 4 horsemen of the apocalypse. They lust for power, and are chameleons. They talk out of both sides of their mouth, and constantly attack attack attack. Offer some outstanding alternative! Oh....You say you don't have one Harry Reid?

Harry: "Bush is just incompetent."

That's very strong leadership you have.

1:26 PM, March 26, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Domestic Spying Program
Numerous hidden cameras in large numbers of americans homes that have a direct real time feed into newsrooms all over america. Everything in the home is recorded.
If your suspected al qaeda operative watches television the media under direction of the pentagon conducts a campaign of terror. Create and put a graphic view of the inside of the suspects bathroom and bedroom suite while he's watching the news and you're sure to get his attention. Put together a news piece with someone who looks like the suspects wife having sex with another man and insert it into the suspects daily evening news.
Part of the idea is to produce enough material to create a level of paranoia in the suspect and see if he runs or where to if he suspects he's being watched. To try and destabilize the suspects life in any number of ways. To try and terrorize the suspects in every way they can think of. america has a multi billion dolar budget for these kind of games.

Additions to the game include spiking the suspect with drugs to try and provoke a reaction. Subtle and subliminal threats that work better once the suspect is paranoid.

Not only is this game used against suspected al qaeda but it is employed against many americans totally polar opposites of the taliban or al qaeda. These spy games are an essential part of american covert operations.

The argument that the media discussing telephone wiretapping of suspected al qaeda is ruining american intelligence gathering capabilite is outrageous. Every one has heard of Echelon and the fact it filters through all global communications. The argument is that the spy program has gone way over the moral boundaries of behavior in the selection of their targets and the implementation of the covert programs. Quaker peace activists being harrassed by government intelligence is unacceptable and unnecessary.

america is the great satan, unquestionably and proud of it.

5:55 PM, March 26, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

I never said that Democrats are free from blame - it certainly cuts both ways. I can speak for myself, I don't hate Republicans and try to keep my comments professional. The same cannot be said about some of the responses I get on this blog. My feelings aren't hurt - I am just pointing it out.

You agree that we have trouble debating issues and getting things done in the U.S., yet somehow you expect Sunni and Shiite Iraqis to forget about their differences and magically form a pro-U.S. democracy. Think about it. At least we are only dealing with a war of words, in Iraq a thousand years of sectarian differences have been unleashed and revenge killings are normal.

Tom, do you know what "amnesty" actually means? A temporary worker program is amnesty. It makes illegal workers legal.

Illegals aren't doing work that Americans won't do - they are doing work that Americans won't do for depressed wages. If we didn't have illegals do you actually think we wouldn't have farm hands picking crops? Maybe more Americans would cut their own lawn and get some exercise, or hire some neighborhood kid who needs to save for college to do it.

1:11 AM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Rob glad you had a good laugh, but as Tom said this was about the leadership not the rank and file Dems. All ingications show that much of the rank and fil;e is ticked at the leadership. Even though ours has its weakness at least the agenda is somewhat progessive and not altered to bash or attack the President as is that of the Dems


7:26 AM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

From my reading of the post, the tone was toward Democrats in general. My mistake, I did not realize you only have a beef with the Democratic leadership.

Since I am not in a leadership position, I thank you for recognizing that we "rank and filers" have legitimate criticisms of the President.

I have issues with the Democratic leadership, but don't really worry about it. As I have said before, there is no need to propose a broad-ranging agenda this far in front of the mid-term election. No one is paying attention at this point, and Republicans control Congress so nothing the Democrats offer is going to pass anyway. Gingrich's Contract with America was not very broad-based with its agenda, and did not come out until September 1994. That is when people start to think about the election. Gingrich and the Republicans were basically anti-Hillary Health Care. They didn't offer any meaningful alternative.

9:21 AM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger Republican Aficionado said...

Yes, Rob, I know what amnesty means. And so does the President, do you?

"One thing the temporary worker program should not do is provide amnesty for people who are in our country illegally. I believe granting amnesty would be unfair, because it would allow those who break the law to jump ahead of people like you all, people who play by the rules and have waited in the line for citizenship.

Amnesty would also be unwise, because it would encourage future waves of illegal immigration, it would increase pressure on the border and make it difficult for law enforcement to focus on those who mean us harm. For the sake of justice and border security, I firmly oppose amnesty."

The President just said that today. And notice it's TEMPORARY. Not permanent as you want to believe.

You don't have issues with Democratic leadership...Hmm. That would be the only thing I would have issues with inside your own party. They are the ones who drive policy! Everytime Reid or Pelosi or Dean open there mouth and send obstructionist messages they are speaking for you and your party. That's what leadership is. If you don't have a problem with your leadership, you are either a pacifist or really socialist.

12:55 PM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

Tom, here is the definition of amnesty from Merriam-Webster:

"the act of an authority (as a government) by which pardon is granted to a large group of individuals"

Making illegal workers legal is amnesty. Since I cannot ask the president, tell me, what do you think amnesty is? How is it not amnesty to pardon illegals with a guest worker program?

Go back and read what I said about Democratic leadership. You clearly misread what I wrote.

2:41 PM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger Republican Aficionado said...

One word Rob.


Read my post and the President's quote.

3:24 PM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger Republican Aficionado said...

They aren't granted citizenship.

3:25 PM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

There is no temporal aspect to the concept of amnesty. Bush's program still makes an illegal worker legal. A person who breaks the law by crossing our borders can then become a legal worker under Bush's program. You still have not told me how that is not amnesty.

Contrary to what you think, "Bush says so" is not a valid reason.

You still have not told me what your definition of amnesty is, because clearly making illegals legal is amnesty from the law.

4:06 PM, March 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Poor Rob having to try and dialogue with these evil american clowns. Look the sad reality is these republicans don't want to have a dialogue they want to conquer the remainder of the world any way possible. You sick satan worshiiping yanks have been brought up to believe the entire world is yours and it doesn't matter how many you people kill or sodomize or rape to acheive. These other commentators are typical of the murderous clueless american zombies on the naziesque orwellian roveianlly genocidal plutocratic fascist american right who don't care about any thing other than killing and stealing.

All the terrorists can sit back and watch their tv's and cheer on the end of america. GOD is going to extinguish you evil satan worshiping yanks. All the people america labels bad boys can relax. america is not going to be here much longer.

Almost 300 years of american evil. The prophecy of your downfall has been predicted for thousands of years.

yee ha

GOD has a special section reserved in hell just for you yanks.

bye bye satan

4:41 PM, March 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Umm...this guy who just posted his sick and twisted message needs to get a life.

Rob, you're right, amnesty is not temporal. But this is not amnesty. Once their time is up, we will deport them. If they want citizenship, like the President said, get in line...

6:29 PM, March 27, 2006  
Anonymous I eat liberals for breakfast said...

Hey Mr. Liberal Anonymous. Before you come screaming GOD on a conservative site, at least call yourself a hypocrite you abortionist baby killing bastard.

All the terrorists can run because we're coming, and we're going to crush them for killing our innocent civilians. The Iraqis were treated like absolute shit, tortured, mamed, killed, and now they are liberated by the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. Run and hide you fucking terrorist cowards. Run and hide.

Mr. Anonymous, maybe your hatred for this country stems from the fact that you hate freedom, and life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

300 years of FREEDOM AND LIBERTY. Freedom will REIGN.

6:54 PM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

I keep asking it, but no one can answer how making illegal aliens legal is not amnesty.

Amnesty is not synonomous with citizenship.

Definitions aside, do you really think that once a temporary worker program is in place it will result in deportations? Oh I get it, we will make them legal workers, have them pay taxes, take the time to integrate them into legitimate American society, and then deport them. That makes a lot of sense.

8:46 PM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Hey Rob, read todays post and I think that my explanation will be to your liking.

8:57 PM, March 27, 2006  
Blogger MDConservative said...

anon, 2/3? What a let down, you are missing your final term.

PS-How is that bank account doing with the millions you are forced to invest to be online?

11:23 PM, March 27, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Huh? baby killing abortionist? Huh? Thanks for proving my point about you brain dead yanks. It's a good thing you americans have such a ghastly education system, if you had half a brain you really would be dangerous. OOohhh you're going to kill all the terrorists are you. I guess you'd better start with the most evil to kill first in which case you americans would be killing yourselves.
I was absolutely correct in my characterization of you murderous yanks.
It must be difficult to try and avoid the truth so that you can carry on the stealing and killing.
Your republican leadership and american big business has been in a global war against organized labor for decades. These american leaders deliberately employ illegal immigrants as part of the war on wages and organized labor. Do you think as jobs disappear in america the idea is for the average americans wage to climb or fall? The rest of the world works for a fraction of what you yanks charge and there is no way to compete unless your leadership enables a race to the bottom.
Your government encouraged it's ultra right wing business supporters to bring these people into the country illegally. Instead of your ridiculous hacking on the democrats maybe you should refocus your efforts on the plutocrats that have consolidated most of the wealth of the planet in a few peoples hands. Personally I would prefer something along the lines of 5,000 billionaires instead of 5 trillionaires running the business world.
Obviously you yanks don't read anything that is truthful and negative about america. Hey thats a great way of solving problems.

naziesque orwellian roveianlly genocidal americana supported by evangelical pilgrim neoconservatives , the military establishment, the media, the puppet world bank and international monetary fund, americans who are afraid of the truth and americans who want to out do satan.
Lucky for you idiots Rob is interested in refuting your outrageous lies.
The world is so lucky america is hell bent on enslaving the entire population.
Isn't the Marianna islands and tom delay a wonderful representation of
america gone mad. Oh yah I forgot you don't hear or read anything about your nasty leadership. Slave drivers and plantation politics and you'all are right proud of it. Go figure.

you are the great satan, congratulations we know how you love the reputation.
bin laden and sadamm hussein were your boys just like the dictator in Pakistan that you are selling billions of dollars of fighter planes to. Do you really think
Pakistan is stable enough to be giving this type of technology to? Looks to me like a repeat of World War II where your american blue chip corporations increased there profits by a factor of ten selling to the nazis or had you forgotten about companies like IBM and Ford contributing to the extermination of millions of Jews nice and orderly.
India and Pakistan have been fighting over the Kashmiri region for years, they are both nuclear armed and have been mortal enemies for years. The whole world is hoping you yanks haven't made another big mistake.
At least if they get it on they are half way around the world just like in world war II.
america can employ the same strategy and after supplying both sides with billions of dollars in military hardware america can sit and wait and watch the two countries annihilate each other.
More great peaceful american thinkers contributing horrific foreign policy as an example to the world in the 21 century, woo hoo!
Sarcasm is so difficult to express accurately when writing, ah wo is me.
Evil freaks, yes you are.

4:23 PM, March 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you serious, or just a pot smoking hippie FREAK?

6:54 PM, March 28, 2006  
Anonymous Brett said...

This anon. guy is a freak. He's the one filled with hate. He's just jealous because America is the greatest nation on Earth and has been for the last 230 years. Keep spewing your bullshit, because in the end, you'll still be a douchebag.

7:42 PM, March 28, 2006  
Anonymous LIBERALS SUCK said...

I bet this anon. guy is a fat slob who sits in front of his computer playing games all day...You know, maybe this anti-american cocksucker is Michael Moore! Go to hell you piece of shit.

7:45 PM, March 28, 2006  
Blogger MDConservative said...

Anon, once again you have failed to incorporate your 3 beloved terms. Losing your game?

8:06 PM, March 28, 2006  
Anonymous Tom said...

Anonymous, don't forget that Jesus loves you! But everybody else thinks you're an asshole...sorry, better luck tomorrow.

8:53 PM, March 28, 2006  
Blogger Republican Aficionado said...

Hey there's another Tom on here...Pretty sweet. Anyway, I can't wait until the Democrats plan on defense is revealed. That'll be for a good laugh.

11:14 PM, March 28, 2006  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hi guys, i'm a 16 year old highschool student in Salt Lake City, Utah, And i've read "The Liberal Lie, The Conservative Truth" and then i've read about half of the comments. Though i was going to start to continue this never ending argument. My side being directed with rob, as i could reasonably be called a liberal, though my labeling of myself doesn't stop there. I could also be labeled as a "empiricalistic agnostic humanitarian humanist." The list could go on... The same goes for all of you, you all have different views of your own that might never be exactly the same as everyone in your political party.

I started thinking about everything thats being said. Accusations between liberal and conservatives, lies and truths. But who is truly right? To make a bold generalization that all Liberals have an underlying infulstructure to disrupt the governing powers of the United States is simply absurd. And i do know your statements are directed to the leaders in the democratic party.

In large i agree with your statements, which lead to say that the Democratic party is scattered at the moment. I personally would call the current democratic party a form of anarchy. That's one main reason George W. Bush is in office today.

I don't agree with our current administation on about anything, that they seem too do. In National Polls, a whopping 62% of Anerica Citizens agree with me. And i therefore i believe it's time for a big change in America, if my perdiction is right, American citizens will vote in a Democratic leader in 2008 resulting in yet another large shift which America always takes.

In my conclusion, i would like to put my words towards the Anonymous that has repeatedly claimed that most if not all Conservative Americans are evil. Now when i read your comments i couldn't quite see if you were in fact talking only to Conservative Americans or...all Americans, which would obviously include me. I will try to interpret what you have said, and simply try to really understand your reasoning behind these statements you made.

Americans have always had seperate views, continuously expressing they're individual opinions which has ultimately lead to the firece debates between Democrats and Republicans. When you said that Americans were brought up to believe that the entire world is ours, can be interpreted to alot of Western Philosophy, which entails that we can achieve anything. This is also attributed to the beginnings our our steadfast economy which made us a World Power. The economy was build apon social mobility which shouldn't be confused with social equality, social equality is the example of "Everyone can be President." Well the truth is, is that everyone cannot be president, but with social mobility, anyone can be president. No matter where you are born in the United States or how much money you have.

I can agree with you that alot of people in our nation that obtain high ranking powers whether it be political or social/business become corrupt and do harm to more people than themselves. But isn't thats the continuous struggle of humanity. Acts that can be labeled "evil" happen everywhere, everyday, they cannot be stopped for every thought that is executed as a physical action towards someone else is once again, the human struggle.

All in all, even though we're republican, or democrat, liberal, or conservative. We all have very much the basic principles of life. Which are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The only thing that i question is the "All men are created equal" in the Constitution. I personally think we have started to drift away from that point. One example is Gay marriage, if the United States Amends the Constitution to Ban Gay Marriage that contradicts one Huge Basic Right within the constitution.

2:23 AM, March 30, 2006  
Blogger Republican Aficionado said...

Marriage in this country is a privilege, not a right. I support civil unions for gays, but not marriage. Marriage is a religious institution.

Good job on being politically correct though kid.

10:45 AM, March 30, 2006  
Blogger MDConservative said...

Conkir, For 16, I find many of your comments wrong (from my perspective) but you seem intelligent and informed.

I suggest you continue to read all aspects of politics and life on this blog and others.

Don't worry too much about grades. I did sub-par work through much of school and college...but ended up pretty high up on the totem pole.

Best of luck to you.

12:49 PM, March 30, 2006  
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