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Sunday, March 19, 2006


The massive problem of illegal immigration is one of the most frustrating political hot buttons that has ever faced this nation. The daily flow of illegals especially from our southern border with Mexico is causing not only a great strain on the resources and economy of the country but has created a fire storm of anger and opinion that has not been seen in this form since the Civil War. Regardless of our social and economic status this massive out of control situation in some form effects every legal citizen of the nation and no one seems overly interested in dealing with the core of the problem which is stopping the flow and what to do with the more than 12 million who are already in the country. Ideas range from capture and deportation to total amnesty. The answer to the border problem is always to increase security but can just increasing security alone stop the flow of the thousands per day who illegally cross our borders ? There are literally thousands of American businesses who depend daily on illegals to satisfy work that is claimed to be undesirable to the legal American worker and at a considerably less wage than most U.S. citizens require. Additionally those who are willing to do the work that illegals perform cannot compete in many circles BECAUSE the illegal is willing to work for much less thus creating a greater profit margin for many businesses. From a political stand point neither party is showing the conviction to deal with the total problem and only offering changes which only scratch the surface of this national emergency. The Democrats see an opportunity for an additional voting block since some of their ideas involve ways to document their illegal status such as drivers license which would allow them to vote. Republicans are afraid of causing a rift in the business community, a strong GOP supporter, which depends on the illegal for filling jobs at cheap wages. The administration is concerned with offending relations with Mexico and causing tension between the countries. As far as the citizenry is concerned there IS ALREADY a great deal of tension between the countries as a form a racial anger toward Mexican illegals is becoming widespread throughout the country. Most Americans businesses are catering to the Mexican illegals in the form of adapting advertising and their business both within the business and in commercials to Spanish and actually changing aspects of their business to accommodate Mexican customers. A prime example is locally in Myrtle Beach, SC where I live. One of the areas five Walmarts has recently remodeled and since this particular store is where the majority of the thousands of Mexicans workers who are employed by the boom in construction that is sweeping this resort area shop the store has catered to this population and in some ways to the neglect of the remainder of those who shop in the store. Again this is but one example of a wide spread problem.

The United States has since her birth been a melting pot of immigrants. Everyone of us who are not a descendant of the American Indian can trace our heritage to Europe, Asia, the Middle East, Africa or a multitude of other nations that have all contributed to the growth and success of this nation over the last 230 years since we declared our independence. At one point immigration to American was so great that Ellis Island in New York Harbor became the first destination to most immigrants. The purpose of this historical landmark was to document and begin the process of legally entering this land of opportunity in order to allow the freedoms in this nation to give rise to a better life than these new future Americans had in their native country. Although everyone who passed through Ellis Island had a different past and customs that were peculiar to their native heritage all had a common goal: to become an American. Not to come to this country and the nation accommodate herself to them but to acclimate to American society and become an intricate part of the great nation which included learning our native language and adjusting to the American way of life.

Today the politically correct attitude is to adapt America to the immigrant whether illegal of legal. English is being replaced by every language especially Spanish. Even our oath of citizenship is being given in languages other than English. Society as a whole is adapting to other nationalities rather than those who are immigrating to the country adapting to American society. Is the problem of illegal immigrants so out of control that there is no answer that will solve the problem ? Can we secure our borders to prevent the massive flow of illegals from happening ? Will we lose our relationship with Mexico if we get tough on the border problem ? First our relationship with Mexico is the least of our worries. The influx of money that illegals pour into the Mexican economy would bankrupt the nation if it were to stop. Tough, that is their problem not ours. Vincente Fox the President of Mexico is no real ally because of his opposition to our securing our borders and his failure to deal with the economic troubles in his country. Mexico will stick with the United States regardless of whether we close our borders because they cannot afford militarily or economically to be in dis-favor with this country. So Mr. President and Congress the first step to controlling illegal immigration is to CLOSE THE BORDERS and even build the southern border wall from California to Texas. After the borders are closed anyone who enters this country illegally is deported immediately with no questions asked and if they enter a second time then they are imprisoned for 10 years at one of the closed military bases in Texas adapted for this purpose and used as labor for government work projects already in existence. Second, I realize that arresting and deporting the 12 million already in the country is a logistical and economical impossibility. Therefore those who are here illegally must be penalized and more than the $2000.00 in the McCain/Kennedy proposal. For instance a fine of 5 -10 thousand dollars with 500 hours of community service and placed on a strict probationary status as anyone who violates the law is. Employment must remain constant and weekly reporting to local authorities to regularly monitor their status. If that status is not followed to the letter of the law and any infraction of U.S. law takes place then immediate deportation for the immigrant and their family occurs with NO possibility of re-entering the country. If they re-enter than the above mentioned imprisonment applies. Every business who continues to employ illegals after the borders are closed will risk losing their business license and be required to pay a sizable fine and the owner of the business face a jail sentence of 6 months at the local county jail. Those who employ illegals on the probationary program must report employment financial records monthly to insure that the illegals are not being given preference over American citizens. Every illegal on the probation program will be required to learn English within the first year and have a basic knowledge of how our system of government works or he/she will face immediate deportation along with their family. I realize that all that has been outlined here will require a great deal of effort to implement but if we continue on the current path, then what we have known as the American dream will soon fade into a multinational quagmire with the loss of the American that we all love and cherish and the end of our diverse yet singularly American way of life.

Ken Taylor


Blogger Rob said...

Good issue/commentary this week. Unlike most weeks, we agree on most everything. Unfortunately, the bottom line is that big business and the engine of capitalism will not allow change to happen. Whether it is the explicit actions of businesses knowingly hiring illegals, or the implicit behavior of American consumers who want to pay low prices - there is no will to change.

Think about all the individual folks who just hire illegals to cut their grass, paint their house, or clean their house. It is happening in greater numbers every day.

12:00 PM, March 19, 2006  
Blogger MDConservative said...

Sounds pretty good. At this point I would be for almost anything that involves slamming the door at the border.

1:34 PM, March 19, 2006  
Blogger Mark said...

We need a 30 foot wall, stretching from the Pacific Ocean to the easternmost point of the border between Texas and Mexico. It needs to have machine gun turrets every 2-300 yards or so manned with sharpshooters with orders to shoot to kill any one who even approcaches the wall from the Mexican side of the border.

Desperate times call for desperate measures, in my opinion.

2:16 PM, March 20, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

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4:14 PM, March 20, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

Tell it to Bush and the Republicans. They control Congress and could make it happen but they won't because they are beholden to corporate interests. They want to flood the job market with cheap labor to keep corporate profits high. In the meantime, the middle class suffers as people lose their jobs to cheap labor.

Americans are willing to do many of the jobs that illegals are doing, but they want a fair wage (meaning they want higher pay).

Just look at what Bush has proposed and what is circulating around the Senate. Spector and Frist are pushing a bill, supported by the President, that would give amnesty to those illegals in the country and increase border security and enforcement. Bush has also funded amnesty with $250 million for the coming year in his budget. I guarantee you that if this becomes law, illegals will get their amnesty and there will be little change in border security and enforcement on employers.

20 years ago we had the exact same bill of goods sold to us by Reagan. Amnesty was given, no enforcement and even bigger problems are the result.

If we don't wake up to what is happening, we will just be complaining about it for another 20+ years.

4:18 PM, March 20, 2006  
Blogger MDConservative said...

On the wall, go for it. And just to stop anyone before they try, don't compare it to the Berlin Wall. That wall was meant to keep people in, this is to keep people out.

Huge difference.

6:41 PM, March 20, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

Berlin Wall? What comparison are you talking about?

In 1986, President Reagan proposed and signed a general amnesty program whereby approximately 2.7 million illegal aliens were granted legal status.

Bush and the Republican Senate is pushing through an amnesty program for illegals (they are calling it a "guest worker program") but today we now have 10-12 million illegals in this country. The bottom line is that it provides cheap labor for large corporate interests. The President is not about to bite the hand that feeds him.

9:18 PM, March 20, 2006  
Blogger MDConservative said...

When people mention building a wall on the border of Mexico, there are some that say it is horrible and that is what the Soviets did with the Berlin Wall.

I was simply saying that if we were able to build a wall on the entire border it is not "horrible" because it would serve to keep people out, not contain them like they did in Berlin.

12:16 AM, March 21, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

I don't know who you are referring to. I am not familiar with people saying it would be horrible, or that it would be like the Berlin Wall. I am sure there must be a few folks out there but they are in the great minority. I would think that the overwhelming majority of Americans do not view a wall across the southern (or northern) borders as comparable to the Berlin Wall.

If there is objection to the Wall, I suspect it is because of the cost which would be in the billions of dollars, not to mention the billions of dollars per year that would be required to maintain it and man it.

Ultimately, until the government gets tough on employers who hire illegals the problem is not going away. People will go over, under, or around a wall if they have the chance to be hired in the U.S. I don't see enforcement of U.S. immigration law as a real possibility given the power and influence of corporate interests in our government - particularly with the Bush Administration.

1:36 AM, March 21, 2006  
Blogger MDConservative said...

I don't want the wall to just stop Mexicans!!! How does your kind not see this? I don't want anyone coming across the border because some are MS13, use crime as a job.

Or terrorists that could cross the border. You think they would care about a job.

I don't want anyone crossing the border without verification! It goes beyond the ones that come to work and drain programs, those are not the main ones I am as concerned about catching.

9:41 PM, March 22, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

My "kind?" What "kind" is that? I don't want illegals or terrorists coming over either.

11:33 PM, March 22, 2006  
Blogger MDConservative said...

The "kind" (how great that I knew that would be the premise of your response) that complain about:

"If there is objection to the Wall, I suspect it is because of the cost..."

In that alone you stated that you are not willing to spend money in an attempt to stop terrorists from entering the country. The liberal side always complains that all the republicans care about is money.

Well, you would rather be counting pennies (figure of speech so spare me the "no, it is billions" lecture) as opposed to doing anything and everything to protect the homeland.

As for your response which is "they will just go around a wall." Well, heck, people just go through red traffic lights. Let’s just get rid of them too. Think about the amount of energy and maintenance costs that would be saved!

12:56 PM, March 23, 2006  
Blogger Gritsforbreakfast said...

I've never understood self-avowed "conservatives" who have such disdain for the free market, in this case labor markets.

One out of 20 American workers is an illegal immigrant. In some industries a majority of workers entered the country illegally. Send them away (which anyway, is impossible) and your housing, grocery and restaurant prices will skyrocket among many other things. Would that be a good thing? Would it be worth it if housing prices increased 50-100% and diminished access to home ownership for average Americans? Personally, I don't think so.

It also doesn't seem very conservative to criticize WalMart for marketing to its customers, and I don't understand how you think that harms you.

As for a wall, that's the biggest Big Government boondoggle waste of money imaginable. As the Arizona governor recently said, show me a fifty foot wall and I'll show you a 51 foot ladder. Plus, who would build it if you banned undocumented labor?

What you've staked out here is not a conservative view in any sense - it is a nativist one.

9:41 AM, March 24, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

MDConservative, can you read? Where did I say I am against the wall because of cost?

Building a wall will make little difference if employers are not held accountable and deportations do not take place of current illegals.

Tell Bush and the Republicans not to put an amnesty program in (he calls it a "guest worker" program).

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