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Friday, December 08, 2006

VICTORY, VICTORY, VICTORY - WHAT IS WRONG WITH VICTORY ?

Has this nation become so weak minded and the leadership in Washington and those who claim to be our allies so political that the simple yet complete goal of victory is no longer even allowed in the American vocabulary. With all of the advise coming from Democrats, weak kneed Republicans and the completely useless and appeasing Iraq Study Group recommendations, no one has the guts nor the sense enough to realize that without full and complete victory Iraq will crumble and become a state of anarchy and tyranny that would make Saddam Hussein look like Mickey Mouse. Terrorism will reign as the driving force in much of the world with a continual goal of destroying America. Israel will no longer exist as a country, Iran will become the dominant player and in essence the complete ruler of what we now know as the Middle East with full nuclear capability and the ability to dictate policy by use of the nuclear threat with the full and complete support and assistance of an ally called Russia. When James Baker was asked about victory during the revelation of the Iraq Study Groups recommendations his response to using even the WORD victory was a lame attempt to appease the politically correct by stating that they did not want to use political catch phrases like , "victory and cut and run." Victory is not a catch phrase but a legitimate goal and solution to the Middle East problem. We are The United States of America and the ONLY remaining superpower in the world but if one were to judge our status by our actions one would have no alternative but to come to the conclusion that we fear Iran and did not have the capability to win in Iraq because of our weakness. General Douglas MacArthur once stated that in war, "there is no substitute for victory!" In WWII we settled only for total and complete victory and the defeat of the forces that sought world domination then with American compassion and will power rebuilt the nations the we had defeated. But only AFTER their total and complete defeat eliminating any capability to wage war on the world again and force their fascist and totalitarian dictates on neighboring countries and ending their goal of world dominance. Why can we never learn from history and doom ourselves to repeating the appeasement and mistakes from the past when we pay for the lessons that these conflicts attempt to teach us with the precious blood of thousands of brave American men and women who fight to insure that this country remains free and has the ability to share that freedom with countries who suffer from the oppression of tyranny whether from a brutal dictator or the twisting of a religion by radicals who seek world domination in the name of Allah! Why when we need another Winston Churchill is the world full of Neville Chamberlins who believe appeasement and giving in to the dictates of tyranny are the only solution for peace. It is time to finish the war that was thrust upon us. Those who refuse to accept Iraq as part of that war are part of the problem and not the solution. While Hussein did not participate directly in 9/11 he willingly assisted many who did and regardless of whether you choose to accept the truth or not had the capability to sell, give or supply weaponry to terrorist states or groups to assist in the Jihad that continues today. Is is going to take another 9/11 for this country to wake up and realize that this enemy is not going to go away simply because we negotiate to the dictates of the terror state of Iran or leave the battlefield of Iraq because it is politically correct ? We have a history because of our freedoms of lulling ourselves to sleep thinking that we are not vulnerable to the evil situations that effect the rest of the world. We slept before Pearl Harbor ! We slept before 9/11 and we are being lulled back to sleep by the appeasement crowd who believe that victory is a political catch phrase and not the only reason to participate in any war. Yes there are many situations that force war upon as and this one in no different. But once forced into war there should never be any end to it other than VICTORY! Without complete victory we fight and re-fight the same war over again sometimes with a different enemy but many times with a similar or the same enemy. The enemy we fight today in Iraq, Afghanistan, in our airports, countries that deceive like Iran, and in secluded cells that are waiting to strike sees appeasement as weakness and uses that weakness as a means to attack and instill fear with their terrorist tactics. We have taken the fight to the enemy reducing their capabilities and damaging their abilities. The appeasement that is showing its ugly face now which seeks surrender rather than victory will and is allowing this radical Islamic enemy a chance to regroup, rearm and reaffirm their commitment and support from their army of Jihadists and terror states like Iran and Syria that support them! We have the power and the ability to win and prevent Iranian dominance and protect a free Iraq if we would use our capabilities! Victory is possible and is ours if we would only learn from the past and step forward to achieve the only solution to any war, VICTORY!!!

Ken Taylor

32 Comments:

Blogger Rob said...

OK Ken, what would you consider victory in Iraq to be? The Iraqi government that our soldiers are dying for is inept, corrupt, and is more closely allied with Iran than the U.S.

Also, given that we have spent $400 billion to date, and all of the money is borrowed from foreign governments, how much more debt do you think the U.S. should rack up for our effort in Iraq?

4:31 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

remember how bad things got after we lost nam? i don't want to live through that hell again. the occupation, the food rationing, the curfews....

KEvron

11:14 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

WOW! That was a powerful post!

I am so glad you brought this to the table.

I guess we have to assume that every 60 years or so some Lunatic nutjob is going to rise up like Hitler and try to take over the world and try thier damndest to destroy America!

But those that try HAVE to be squashed.

That is the ONLY outcome VICTORY! We want to have an ally in the Global War on Terror, can you imagine the consequences if we dont have Iraq as an ally?

And it looks like President Nutjob in Iran is another Hitler. We cant afford to let him or his Mullah's and Imam's run amuck willy nilly throughout the middle east let alone the rest of the world.

I wish we had more cooperation from the other Islamic Nations in that area, but fat chance of that happening any time soon. With the exception of Jordan.

And I wish to God the Liberals who once were asked 65 years ago to set aside thier differences and come together for the good of the Country and help win the war then would wake the hell up and pay attention to people like you who see what is really going on and do the same thing again so we can win this war on terror.

I am sick to death of getting attacked! And those that bitch and moan just make us look weak to the rest of the world, and you know what? THEY KNOW IT! They watch us and they look at the "Poor little Americans" when they should be saying Holy **** we might be next!

Victory is the ONLY Option!

I could really feel the passion in this post! Made me a bit passionate myself.

11:14 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

you've got change coming, marie....

KEvron

11:16 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

....my flag waves!

KEvron

11:17 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Change to what?

11:17 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Yeah Kevron your flag waves alright upsidedown! You crying for help?

Why dont you just change your flag to white?

11:19 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

what two ¢hange?

KEvron

11:20 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Just say what you mean Kevron, are you some commie?

11:22 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

"Yeah Kevron your flag waves alright upsidedown!"

it waves alright right-side up, too.

"You crying for help?"

show me one handbook that defines it thusly. otherwise, please do not insult the flag.

"Why dont you just change your flag to white?"

to save our soldiers from your desire to see them die? gladly.

KEvron

11:23 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

"Just say what you mean Kevron"

i'll do you one better; i'll mean what i say.

"are you some commie?"

well, i'm a liberal, a democrat and a union worker, so i must be....

KEvron

11:25 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Just change your flag to white and it will still wave the same direction as you do.

11:26 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

....your flag just sits there, collecting bird droppings. have you no decency?

KEvron

11:28 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

"Just change your flag to white and...."

you'll dye it red with the blood of the soldiers you long to watch perish?

KEvron

11:30 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

When you go back on your medication Kevron maybe you can tell me what the hell you are talking about.

11:30 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

"....it will still wave the same direction as you do."

you should change your name to "marie's non cents".

i'll call you $0.00 for short....

KEvron

11:31 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

"When you go back on your medication Kevron maybe you can tell me what the hell you are talking about."

maybe so. until then, "defeat! defeat! defeat!"

KEvron

11:32 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

You are obviously a child Kevron and in dire need of a parental fugure in your life, I dont have the time to be your momma!

11:36 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

"You are obviously a child Kevron"

and i'm up past my bed time. i'm bad!

"and in dire need of a parental fugure in your life"

ooh! change my nappy, you sexy thing!

"I dont have the time to be your momma!"

love 'em and leave 'em, eh? tease....

KEvron

11:38 PM, December 08, 2006  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Kevron, Google any flag etiquitte concerning the flag displayed upside down and you will find that it is considered a sign of distress which originated in battle situations expressing that soldiers were in a distressed situation. It is not a protest and should NEVER be used as a protest in that way.

Rob, We have the capability to move toward victory if we would but use it and quit meandering around and appeasing Iran, etc. Militarily that would mean eliminating with force secterian opposition to the government which would mean using our power to take out whomever. It would also mean seek out and destroy all terror strong holds that we know are in place but have left to the hands of Iraq Security Force to flush out. As far as the government if we take steps to fully secure the country and I mean using our tremendous muscle to make sure that Iran, Syria and the factions within the country have no say or control by use of terror or killing each other then the government can do whatever it needs to to weed out corruption, etc. because they would have all the time in the world to handle the establishment of whtever type of government their people desire. We are strong enough if we would stop fearing the use of our might to handle Iran, Syria , Iraq,Afghanistan etc but our own political correctness keeps us from using that might to end this situation quickly and mop up and rebuild, establish etc. when the fighting is done! Just like WWII Europe and Japan! It won't be easy nor will it be pretty because war in itself is ugly but there comes a time when you have to stop pussy footing around and take complete action and defeat the enemy wherever they are. We have that ability but refuse to use it to its full extent. We do not even have to use any nuclear capability to do this. Rememmber one Nimitz class carrier has more fire power than all but two countries in the world the US and Great Britain. That does not make us occupiers nor does it make us evil it shows that we have the resolve and will to end a war that was thrust upon us by Islamic fanatics. We righfully have fought for what we believe in but have not had the resolve to take that fight to its full and only conclusion which is complete victory in ALL battlefields.

8:28 AM, December 09, 2006  
Blogger Rob said...

Marie, the current Iraqi government is Shiite - just like Iran. The idea that the current government is going to be our ally against Iran is completely false and shows how little you understand the complexities of the situation.

Interesting thoughts Ken. You must think that our CIC and our military have simply been incompetent if you think they haven't been trying to do much of what you are saying.

Are you suggesting that we need to kill 4 million Sunnis so that the Shiite government can hold power?

You do realize that Iran is a Shiite country and that the Shiite government in Iraq is aligned with them.

In addition, the current Iraqi government is largely controlled (or at least beholden to) Muqtada al Sadr and his Mahdi Army.

Finally, everyone (Bush, Rumsfeld, Gates, Abizaid, the Iraq Study Group, etc) now realizes and agrees that there is no military solution to Iraq. It requires a political solution at the current time.

9:32 AM, December 09, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

"Kevron, Google any flag etiquitte concerning the flag displayed upside down and you will find that it is considered a sign of distress which originated in battle situations expressing that soldiers were in a distressed situation. It is not a protest and should NEVER be used as a protest in that way."

ken, google any flag etiquette (right after you google the proper spelling of "etiquette") concerning the flag displayed upside down and you'll find that none of it applies here.

don't you guys know anything about your flag?

KEvron

11:15 AM, December 09, 2006  
Anonymous Seth said...

Ken and Marie --

Just so you know what you're dealing with in KEvron, here is a comment he left at my place awhile ago:

"The Democrats claim to "support" the troops, while in reality they do all they can to get as many of our soldiers and Marines killed as they can, just to make losing a reality."

and there's nothing you can do to stop us.

nothing.

KEvron


I've taken to deleting his foolishness, but I'm leaving that one up as it is such a great testimonial to today's Democrats, delivered by one of their own.

11:43 AM, December 09, 2006  
Blogger KEvron said...

there really is nothing you can do to stop us, seth.

nothing.

KEvron

12:12 PM, December 09, 2006  
Anonymous mudkitty said...

I just have one question. If the greatest military in the history of the world can't quell the sectarian, insurgent, and terrorist violence, then how can we expect to train the Iraqi Army to?

4:57 PM, December 10, 2006  
Anonymous mudkitty said...

Anyone?

11:25 AM, December 12, 2006  
Anonymous mudkitty said...

Thought not. I've asked this question on every rightwing site I've encountered, and no one, not one person, has responded. You alll just glide past it.

You can't fix something that you don't acknowledge.

9:19 PM, December 13, 2006  
Anonymous mudkitty said...

Still waiting. It's been days now.

3:29 PM, December 16, 2006  
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