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Monday, August 10, 2009

PERHAPS BOOMERS ARE UNHAPPY WITH OBAMA'S PLAN TO, "OFF," THEMSELVES - BY RADENA

The audacity of such folks. Shouldn't we be lining up to get counseled on how best to do ourselves in?

This Town Hall meeting to discuss Health Care took place in Tampa Florida last Friday evening. They closed the doors on people at a public meeting!




The Politics page at Fox News has the story which says it was nearly a riot!
People are genuinely angry. How's that attempt to silence people who oppose the proposed Health Care plan working out for you, Obama?

Notice the ages of the people in the above video and in all of the videos that have been shown regarding the Health Care Town Hall meetings. They aren't youngsters like most of those at the Obama rallies, are they? No, they are older folks who have worked most of their lives and for some silly reason want to hang on to what they have worked for and demand their right to be able to make choices about their own health care. If you're my age you don't want the government deciding what you are going to do if you should become gravely ill, and you sure don't want to be forced to seek out "end of life counseling" as this monstrosity of a bill proposes!

I’ve read about a third of HR 3200 and the counseling parts are designed to encourage euthanasia,” claimed Dr. Katherine Schlaerth, an associate professor of family medicine at Loma Linda University School of Medicine. “Seniors will be counseled every five years, and more often if they get sicker.”

Nearly 30% of America's population is made up of Baby Boomers, people born between the years of 1945 and 1964. During the peak of the boom 4.3 million Americans were born! As it becomes apparent to even more people that the government wants us to choose to off ourselves, more and more people are going to become furious. Wonder why the present administration overlooked this little fact?



RaDena - Blasting Caps And Dynamite

6 Comments:

Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

RaDena - have you read the Pelosi/Hoyer hit piece in USA Today ? There is a link at Drudge Report This is a liberal paper and the most interesting aspect of the article are the comments which ALL disagree with Pelosi and Hoyer.

I'll bet that niether of these over the hill gang members will have to, "off," themselves because their health care counselor suggests it !

9:13 AM, August 10, 2009  
Blogger RaDena said...

Of course they wont, Ken. They don't want their crappy plan for themslves! GADS, I'm tired of those people!

11:19 AM, August 10, 2009  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Kongress wants to pass this version of HealthKill, with all the End of Life Counseling. . . .

Well, the majority of our KongressKritters have been in for so long, they're older then dirt.

They should lead by example, show us how it's done, and go first.

Ohhhh. But they're the Elected Elite of The Annointed One. They're Special. . .

B Woodman
III

6:02 PM, August 10, 2009  
Blogger Chris mankey said...

The audacity of such folks. Shouldn't we be lining up to get counseled on how best to do ourselves in?

That would be because it SAY NO SUCH THING.

"and you sure don't want to be forced to seek out "end of life counseling"


Which has nothing to do with euthanasia or killing yourself. But don't let that stop you!

2:34 PM, August 11, 2009  
OpenID johnrj08 said...

The amount of downright cornpone ignorance demonstrated in some conservative blogs is breath-taking. First of all, anybody who tries to shout down other people at these meetings is there for one reason: to make sure nobody learns anything. They walk in the door thinking that they know everything there is to know about the health care reform bills in Congress, but all they spew out are the patently false rumors that have been spoon-fed to them by political operatives, and organizations that are in the pocket of the insurance industry. These meetings represent a chance for ordinary citizens to ask questions and HEAR answers. If they don’t agree with an answer, they can always ask a follow-up. Disrupting a meeting fails to achieve anything. It’s just a juvenile hissy-fit that makes it impossible for any reasonable person to get any facts at all. If these lunatics don’t think any real facts are being discussed at these meetings, then why are they attending?

The behavior of some citizens at these town hall meetings, which were a great idea, has been shameful at best and unAmerican at worst. The delusional and totally scurrilous notion that the President of the United States is trying to “take over” the country is the kind of paranoid rant you’d expect to hear at a Klan meeting. This country is in a serious crisis on several different fronts. Instead of screaming like a jackass, try asking an intelligent question or making a rational suggestion. Those that are whining about “socialism” don’t even know what socialism is, and they don’t know that the current reforms do NOT take over health care. You can keep your existing insurance and your doctor if you want to, or you can go with the national plan. There’s nothing nefarious about this. It is simply a way to make health care providers more competitive and keep millions of people from going bankrupt every year because they can’t afford decent medical coverage.

Right now, the insurance industry can deny you coverage if you have a previous condition OR what it determines to be a lot of medical problems. It can raise your rates at any time, and it can arbitrarily deny coverage if it thinks you’re too old or sick to benefit from treatment. As it stands right now, all insurance companies have “death panels” in that they can deny coverage to you if you’re too old, or if your condition is, in their opinion, untreatable. Under the reform plans, only the health care providers would play a role in those processes, not corporate actuaries. The reform bills do NOT sanction or form so-called “death panels”. They set up “end of life” counseling, which will benefit every single family with an elderly relative. There would be no government subsidized abortions and no government controls over doctors. Nobody would tell you which insurance you have to go with. It would be your choice. Period. End of story.

The lies that have been spread by public relations firms commissioned by the insurance industry have taken root in the minds of these screamers. If any one of them actually sat down, shut up and listened for one minute, they might understand that the government would not be taking over their medical care. It would be managing a national plan. Those who claim that the government can’t run anything well should pick up a newspaper some time. They might learn that the VA and MediCare, which are administrated by the government, have excellent reputations. Ironically, some of the people screaming loudest at these meetings are on MediCare and don’t even know it’s run by the government. They yell angrily, “I don’t want the government messin’ with my MediCare!” Forehead slap goes here.

Everybody is entitled to confront lawmakers with hard questions about the reforms that are being considered. But they have no right to take over these meetings and make it impossible for other, more reasonable citizens, to ask their questions in a civil manner and hear answers.

4:51 PM, August 11, 2009  
OpenID johnrj08 said...

The amount of downright cornpone ignorance demonstrated in some conservative blogs is breath-taking. First of all, anybody who tries to shout down other people at these meetings is there for one reason: to make sure nobody learns anything. They walk in the door thinking that they know everything there is to know about the health care reform bills in Congress, but all they spew out are the patently false rumors that have been spoon-fed to them by political operatives, and organizations that are in the pocket of the insurance industry. These meetings represent a chance for ordinary citizens to ask questions and HEAR answers. If they don’t agree with an answer, they can always ask a follow-up. Disrupting a meeting fails to achieve anything. It’s just a juvenile hissy-fit that makes it impossible for any reasonable person to get any facts at all. If these lunatics don’t think any real facts are being discussed at these meetings, then why are they attending?

The behavior of some citizens at these town hall meetings, which were a great idea, has been shameful at best and unAmerican at worst. The delusional and totally scurrilous notion that the President of the United States is trying to “take over” the country is the kind of paranoid rant you’d expect to hear at a Klan meeting. This country is in a serious crisis on several different fronts. Instead of screaming like a jackass, try asking an intelligent question or making a rational suggestion. Those that are whining about “socialism” don’t even know what socialism is, and they don’t know that the current reforms do NOT take over health care. You can keep your existing insurance and your doctor if you want to, or you can go with the national plan. There’s nothing nefarious about this. It is simply a way to make health care providers more competitive and keep millions of people from going bankrupt every year because they can’t afford decent medical coverage.

Right now, the insurance industry can deny you coverage if you have a previous condition OR what it determines to be a lot of medical problems. It can raise your rates at any time, and it can arbitrarily deny coverage if it thinks you’re too old or sick to benefit from treatment. As it stands right now, all insurance companies have “death panels” in that they can deny coverage to you if you’re too old, or if your condition is, in their opinion, untreatable. Under the reform plans, only the health care providers would play a role in those processes, not corporate actuaries. The reform bills do NOT sanction or form so-called “death panels”. They set up “end of life” counseling, which will benefit every single family with an elderly relative. There would be no government subsidized abortions and no government controls over doctors. Nobody would tell you which insurance you have to go with. It would be your choice. Period. End of story.

The lies that have been spread by public relations firms commissioned by the insurance industry have taken root in the minds of these screamers. If any one of them actually sat down, shut up and listened for one minute, they might understand that the government would not be taking over their medical care. It would be managing a national plan. Those who claim that the government can’t run anything well should pick up a newspaper some time. They might learn that the VA and MediCare, which are administrated by the government, have excellent reputations. Ironically, some of the people screaming loudest at these meetings are on MediCare and don’t even know it’s run by the government. They yell angrily, “I don’t want the government messin’ with my MediCare!” Forehead slap goes here.

Everybody is entitled to confront lawmakers with hard questions about the reforms that are being considered. But they have no right to take over these meetings and make it impossible for other, more reasonable citizens, to ask their questions in a civil manner and hear answers.

4:51 PM, August 11, 2009  

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