FREEDOM OF SPEECH MURDERED IN DEARBORN, MICH - BY RADENA
People in this country need to emerge from their Obamacoma and wake up. We are losing our freedom of speech, which is also under attack by those who wish to get the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" passed - a contradiction in terms because there's nothing fair about it. It's becoming more apparent every day that nothing other than us being attacked again on a massive scale will wake up zombie like Americans who have bought a bill of goods that stinks to high heaven on every level.Christian group barred from sidewalk handouts at Arab festival
U.S. District Judge Nancy Edmunds denied Anaheim, Calif.-based Arabic Christian Perspective's request for a temporary restraining order. The group describes itself in its court filing as "a national ministry established for the purpose of proclaiming the Holy Gospel of Jesus Christ to Muslims...(that) travels around the country attending and distributing Christian literature at Muslim festivals and mosques."
A lawyer for the group said it would seek a permanent injunction against the city of Dearborn. "It's not over," said Robert J. Muise of theThomas More Law Center, an Ann Arbor-based Christian rights advocacy group.
Another lawyer on the case said the Dearborn officials action could be part of what he described as a broader Muslim legal attack on critics of Islam in our "Judeo-Christian nation."
"Muslims are using the courts in this country to stop our free speech rights," said William J. Becker Jr., a Los Angeles attorney who has represented a number of prominent critics of Islam. (There's more equally outrageous news at the link!)
As for U.S. District Judge Edmonds, we recommend she move post haste to Afghanistan where the country is already Muslim and she can take a break.
Translation: "I will not submit." No we won't! How about you?
RaDena - Blasting Caps And Dynamite
posted by The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth | 5:08 PM
13 Comments:
Radena - first let me welcome you to The Liberal Lie. I look forward to working with you in the fight for conservatism and getting the truth out.
Now my comment. Liberals through the courts have been eroding our rights for years with their liberal interpretation of the Constitution. Now that they have a Congess and President who agree with them I truly believe that situations like this will become more common place.
Thanks for the welcome, Ken!
As for the liberals interpretating the Constitution, I thinks it's worse than that. I don't believe they're even bothering with the Constitution. It seems they believe it archaic and simply ignore it altogether.
Get real!
From the article you linked to:
"Festival organizer Fay Beydoun said the evangelical group was being offered a good spot in an area with a number of other religious, nonprofit and political groups. "You have to pass right in front of it to get anywhere," said Beydoun, executive director of the American Arab Chamber of Commerce."
If I am at a religious-based festival, I don't want Muslims running around pushing literature in my face.
Look, if you think the judge is wrong and you think anyone who wants to solicit and push their ideas around in public, then you have to allow Christians, Muslims, agnostics, atheists, Pagans, nudists, whoever to walk around and push their ideas out.
I don't see anything wrong with the judge's ruling. They offered the Christian group a high visibility booth to promote their cause. Anyone interested could go to their booth.
If I am at any festival, religious or otherwise, I don't want anyone pushing anything in my face. That's not the point. Read on and be enlightened:
"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
So, dear sir, it is not about what you want and it isn't about what I want. It's about the First Amendment and the fact that this judge is not upholding it.
Ken, that's my last answer to your resident liberal. Please take over from here if you care too. I'm totally pressed for time, but you know that.
RaDena, well met and Welcome! If this is a taste of your writing, I'll be glad to read and respond.
California Courts are the perfect example of why the state is known in certain places (The Oklahoma Patriot, for example) as the "cereal state". The california state and it's courts are full of Nuts, Flakes, and Fruits.
I truly wish that Mexico could take that place back. It offers nothing to the rest of society except a suntan. That we can get anywhere.
Congress isn't establishing a religion in the example you give. You need to get real.
The example you gave is no different than any city festival requiring solicitors to register and operate in designated areas.
If you want to hold a protest march in DC, you can do it, but you have to register with the city and stick to the designated area and time so you don't disrupt traffic and create a public danger. That isn't cutting into someone's First Amendment right.
Here in Maryland, our county fair has EXACTLY the same restrictions as the example you gave. The reason is that they don't want a bunch of solicitors bothering all of the visitors - otherwise fewer people will come.
This happens in festivals across the country every single day. I would have a concern if this group was not offered an area to communicate their message, distribute their literature, etc. But allowing them to walk freely through the festival bugging people creates a public nuisance, just as having pushy atheists fussing about a local festival my family and I might want to enjoy.
Rob, the point Radena was making wasn't on the point of the government's making a new religion, you uneducated twit. It was in the violation of the free exercise and free speech parts.
And I do hope you have a legal definition for "public nuisance". As I understand free speech, the only speech that is forbidden is that for which a public danger can be shown. For instance, yelling fire in a crowded theatre, when there isn't.
And you're a blithering idiot if you think atheists aren't showing up at Christian affairs to parade their insanity. We don't care for it, but it's allowed.
I stand by my discussion above and anyone who knows anything about how fairs and festivals are held throughout the country knows that:
1. Requiring people to register and restrict their communication to their designated area is perfectly legal.
2. It most certainly is not a violation of the First Amendment.
Go on and believe what you want, but serious people know better.
If Moslems were out proselytizing, I bet that the Michigan court wouldn't rule against THEM.
Greywolfe, Thanks for the welcome. I appreciate it.
Also, thank you for answering the resident nitwit. I seriously don't have the time to spend a lot of time in comment sections. I've noticed a lot of bloggers who use the comments option but don't respond to their commenters ever, which I personally find rude. Perhaps that's just me, but that's why I don't turn comments on at Blasting Caps and Dynamite. However I do have time to follow a few blogs and I'll link you to my sidebar and mark you in the dashboard as blogs I follow. I won't be around every day, but when I have time I'll stop by.
Thanks again!
RaDena: Welcome! Glad to read another voice of reason on these pages.
Unlike Rob, who can only be counted on to regurgitate Dem talking points like a parrot begging for a cracker!
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