HILLARY PUSHING FOR, " DUEL, " TICKET
For the third time in the last week Hillary Clinton has publicly suggested that she and Barack Obama set aside their differences in the heated campaign to gain the Democrat nomination and combine together to create the Democrat ticket. Of course the stickler here is that she take the top of the ticket and Obama take the VP.
Obama's response to this has been what one would expect from the candidate who, in spite of recent wins by Hillary in the Primaries, still has the lead in delegates for the nomination. Obama has not only said no to the proposition but has added that the Clinton's are touting that he is not ready to be Commander in Chief, ( which he is not, nor is she), but yet are willing to offer him the VP slot which means that if she were elected he is only a heartbeat from being Commander in Chief.
Either option of course is a frightening thought, Hillary being President and either one being Commander in Chief, but never the less Obama is not exactly open to the idea. I have written in a previous post that I believe Hillary though behind in the delegate count has the upper hand at this point for the nomination for three reason:
1. - neither candidate can gain the nomination before the Convention because there are not enough delegates left, which means Super Delegates will decide the nomination. She has the advantage here because more of them owe her than Obama.
2. - Super Delegates will choose a candidate who they think can delivery the big States. Though Obama has won more States, Hillary has won ALL of the big States. Cal, NY, NJ, FL, Mich, TX, Oh, and has a double digit lead in Penn.
3. - Florida and Michigan are heavily leaning toward repeating their Primaries in order to seat delegates at the Convention. Both were won by Hillary and she has a strong advantage in a repeat.
But more than these three reasons make me believe that the Clinton's have not only something up there deceiving, scheming sleeves to gain the nomination but also know something that Obama does not. Clinton's never go public in a fight unless they believe they have an advantage , no matter how that advantage is gained, over their opposition.
Hillary has been so adamant about Obama taking the VP slot and conceding the race that I believe her back room dealings in the party and with the Super Delegates has not only already begun but has provided her with a strong enough response for her ascension to the nomination that has believes she has it in the bag provided she can convince Obama to sign on.
Clinton's never play a straight hand when it comes to the poker of politics. They always have an Ace up their sleeve and for Hillary to push the combined ticket idea as much as she is she must have TWO Aces up her sleeve and a strong enough private commitment through back room politics and promises made that her confidence is high enough to broadcast this idea so the media can build on it.
Obama has strong enough support from the voters that the sly dealings of the Clinton's now and during the Convention are going to produce a war, the likes of which have never been seen in a political race for the nomination of any party.
The 1976 race between Ronald Reagan and then President Gerald Ford was heated at the Convention with Reagan almost unseating an incumbent President but that will look like a gentleman's game of chess compared to the fight that is shaping up for the Democrats between Hillary and Obama.
She has proven throughout their career that nothing is beneath them when it comes to gaining the Presidency. Bubba gave us many examples while he was running and again while President and Hillary was a force behind many of the scandals and bitterness that became somewhat of a persona during the Clinton campaign in the 1992 election and their Administration.
Their firm belief that they are destined to the Presidency, first him and now her, makes any type of move, action, deception or wheeling and dealing good bad or indifferent possible and as usual the Clinton's are the experts at destroying any obstacle between them and the political power they crave more than air itself.
Ken Taylor
Obama's response to this has been what one would expect from the candidate who, in spite of recent wins by Hillary in the Primaries, still has the lead in delegates for the nomination. Obama has not only said no to the proposition but has added that the Clinton's are touting that he is not ready to be Commander in Chief, ( which he is not, nor is she), but yet are willing to offer him the VP slot which means that if she were elected he is only a heartbeat from being Commander in Chief.
Either option of course is a frightening thought, Hillary being President and either one being Commander in Chief, but never the less Obama is not exactly open to the idea. I have written in a previous post that I believe Hillary though behind in the delegate count has the upper hand at this point for the nomination for three reason:
1. - neither candidate can gain the nomination before the Convention because there are not enough delegates left, which means Super Delegates will decide the nomination. She has the advantage here because more of them owe her than Obama.
2. - Super Delegates will choose a candidate who they think can delivery the big States. Though Obama has won more States, Hillary has won ALL of the big States. Cal, NY, NJ, FL, Mich, TX, Oh, and has a double digit lead in Penn.
3. - Florida and Michigan are heavily leaning toward repeating their Primaries in order to seat delegates at the Convention. Both were won by Hillary and she has a strong advantage in a repeat.
But more than these three reasons make me believe that the Clinton's have not only something up there deceiving, scheming sleeves to gain the nomination but also know something that Obama does not. Clinton's never go public in a fight unless they believe they have an advantage , no matter how that advantage is gained, over their opposition.
Hillary has been so adamant about Obama taking the VP slot and conceding the race that I believe her back room dealings in the party and with the Super Delegates has not only already begun but has provided her with a strong enough response for her ascension to the nomination that has believes she has it in the bag provided she can convince Obama to sign on.
Clinton's never play a straight hand when it comes to the poker of politics. They always have an Ace up their sleeve and for Hillary to push the combined ticket idea as much as she is she must have TWO Aces up her sleeve and a strong enough private commitment through back room politics and promises made that her confidence is high enough to broadcast this idea so the media can build on it.
Obama has strong enough support from the voters that the sly dealings of the Clinton's now and during the Convention are going to produce a war, the likes of which have never been seen in a political race for the nomination of any party.
The 1976 race between Ronald Reagan and then President Gerald Ford was heated at the Convention with Reagan almost unseating an incumbent President but that will look like a gentleman's game of chess compared to the fight that is shaping up for the Democrats between Hillary and Obama.
She has proven throughout their career that nothing is beneath them when it comes to gaining the Presidency. Bubba gave us many examples while he was running and again while President and Hillary was a force behind many of the scandals and bitterness that became somewhat of a persona during the Clinton campaign in the 1992 election and their Administration.
Their firm belief that they are destined to the Presidency, first him and now her, makes any type of move, action, deception or wheeling and dealing good bad or indifferent possible and as usual the Clinton's are the experts at destroying any obstacle between them and the political power they crave more than air itself.
Ken Taylor
posted by The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth | 10:55 AM
6 Comments:
Not going to happen. Obama is going to win the nomination and there is no way he will put her on the ticket.
Hillary wants to create an impression that she is in charge and she also wants to somehow confuse voters into thinking that if they vote for her then they can get both her and Obama. She can do the delegate math and knows she is going to lose. This is just a "Hail Mary" that won't really amount to much.
Obama will win big tonight and over the next 6 weeks he is going to convince Pennsylvania voters that he should be the choice. All of the nonsense about a big party fight and disarray in the Democratic Party is just the media and Republicans trying to create a mountain out of a molehill.
The race is effectively over - Obama is the nominee.
ROb, still there are not enough delegates left to give either one the nomination before the Convention.
The Clinton's sre the champions of back room politics and the Super Delegates are goinh to be decide by back room deals.
Besides as I mention tose delegates owe the Clintons more than they do Obama and that is why she has the advantage at the Convention.
If there were enough delegates left through the Primaries I tend to agree Obama would win but the Clinton machine will control the Convention.
I agree. I fully expect the Clintons to "twist the arms" (blackmail) of many of the delegates in order to get their way. Actually, my best case scenario for this is for that to happen, for the Democratic party to "implode" and for McCain to beat Hillary. Then I would be able to dance for joy! :)
I wouldnt put anything past Hillary, but it seems mathmatically impossible with the exception of (Like Gayle Said) the blackmail of super delegates!
Who know's what dirt she has on them, and with Spitzer now out of the picture, it may be time for her to really come out swinging.
From this point on, I think we might just hear more and more super delegates getting pinched if they arent going for Hillary.
This is turning out to be one heck of an election!
Ken, there are not enough pledged delegates, but there are certainly more than enough total delegates when you count the super delegates.
The super delegates are not going to overturn the will of the people. Obama is going to have a substantial lead in the pledged delegates and the popular vote across the country. The super delegates will just go along with will of the people.
It is just wishful thinking and media driven blather to say that this will go all the way to the convention.
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