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HISTORICAL QUOTE OF THE WEEK - "Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any other." ABRAHAM LINCOLN

Thursday, September 06, 2007


With the simple statement , "I am rinning for President of the United States, " Former Tennessee Senator Fred Thompson made it official last night as he was a quest on The Tonight Show.

Thompson followed the appearance with a video broadcast at his campaign website, Fred 08 - Friends of Fred.

Thomspon is runnign a conservative campaign that stands for limited government, strong defense, less taxation and returning the power to the people while enforcing border security and immigration laws. Also a return to the values and principles as found in The Declaration of Independence and The Constitution. Two documents that Thompson stated are not out dated but as viable today as they were when they were written.

Fred Thompson strong conservative values for the Presidency in 2008.

Ken Taylor


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your kidding right? Fred has lobbied for pro-choice. He raised funds for "Scooter" Libby's legal fees and fines.
Mr. Thompson is at best inconsistant. Measure his strong family values, anti-abortion, and beltway outsider stances with his actual actions and Fred comes up way short.

11:17 AM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Amazing how attacks only come anonymous.

First the , "pro choice," flak was Fred hired as a counsel for a client and NOT his beliefs nor his stance on the issue. He was doing his job as an attorney whose firm was hired. Get your facts straight.

His voting record in the Senate also states otherwise. The only Senator at the time who recieved a 100% rating in his voting against abortion!

Everthing else he stands for and believs follows the conservative mantra. Agains research before you spew and get your facts straight!

11:49 AM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

BTW anonymous. What is wrong with raising defense funds for a scapegoat set up by a liberal attack machine in an investigation for a supposed crime that never happened ?

Why should Fred be critisized for raising funds for a man who should have never been questioned or charged in the first place.

The Plame think was a politcal hit job by a prosecutor who was looking for a fall guy and Libby became his man.

11:56 AM, September 06, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fred is practing his "I don't recall" defense. I have yet to see anything from him saying "This is absolutely untrue!" instead it was "I don't remember" and now it's changed to "I was a lawyer, not a lobbist." I know Americans have gotten used the "I forgot" response but I think leaders of countries should have better memories.
The leaders of that pro-choice group have him on record as a lobbist not a legal advisor. The former head of that organization specificly remembers discussing his lobbying activity with him. The voting record is my cause for concern. He's inconsistant. It's like saying your for strong family values and sporting your trophy second wife.

Libby was found guilty in a court of law. Period. Beltway outsiders don't raise money for convicted felons with ties to the white house.

Frame it anyway you like but Fred is a fake. He's not a man of integrity. He's an actor playing a role but hey he really does have that red pickup.

12:31 PM, September 06, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Former Rep. Michael D. Barnes (D-Md.), a colleague at the lobbying and law firm where Thompson worked, said that DeSarno had asked him to recommend someone for the lobbying work and that he had suggested Thompson. He said it was "absolutely bizarre" for Thompson to deny that he lobbied against the abortion counseling rule.

"I talked to him while he was doing it, and I talked to [DeSarno] about the fact that she was very pleased with the work that he was doing for her organization," said Barnes. "I have strong, total recollection of that. This is not something I dreamed up or she dreamed up. This is fact."

A plot so devious that it took 19 years to hatch.... Those evil smear artist with their objective reality.... I can hear the neocons spining but in this case it's just their wheels.

12:47 PM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


The Ron Paul Cult is coming out of the woodwork.

Back to Thompson :-)

I fell asleep to early and missed the Jay Leno announcement.

Thank You for posting it, and you know I stole it lol

12:48 PM, September 06, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rebut me then.

Back to the issues.

Or is this a kool-aid drinkers blog?

1:10 PM, September 06, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It always strikes me funny that these "anonymous" have so much to say, but won't put a name behind it. They lose all credibility to me!

1:26 PM, September 06, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny how you have to register to a crap blog to post with a name.
Hi, Jennifer my name is Charles, feel better now?

Still waiting for rebutal...

1:48 PM, September 06, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The day before Senate Watergate Committee minority counsel Fred Thompson made the inquiry that launched him into the national spotlight -- asking an aide to President Nixon whether there was a White House taping system -- he telephoned Nixon's lawyer.
Thompson tipped off the White House that the committee knew about the taping system and would be making the information public. In his all-but-forgotten Watergate memoir, "At That Point in Time," Thompson said he acted with "no authority" in divulging the committee's knowledge of the tapes, which provided the evidence that led to Nixon's resignation. It was one of many Thompson leaks to the Nixon team, according to a former investigator for Democrats on the committee, Scott Armstrong , who remains upset at Thompson's actions.
"Thompson was a mole for the White House," Armstrong said in an interview. "Fred was working hammer and tong to defeat the investigation of finding out what happened to authorize Watergate and find out what the role of the president was."
Asked about the matter this week, Thompson -- who is preparing to run for the 2008 Republican presidential nomination -- responded via e-mail without addressing the specific charge of being a Nixon mole: "I'm glad all of this has finally caused someone to read my Watergate book, even though it's taken them over thirty years."
The view of Thompson as a Nixon mole is strikingly at odds with the former Tennessee senator's longtime image as an independent-minded prosecutor who helped bring down the president he admired. Indeed, the website of Thompson's presidential exploratory committee boasts that he "gained national attention for leading the line of inquiry that revealed the audio-taping system in the White House Oval Office." It is an image that has been solidified by Thompson's portrayal of a tough-talking prosecutor in the television series "Law and Order."
But the story of his role in the Nixon case helps put in perspective Thompson's recent stance as one of the most outspoken proponents of pardoning I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, the former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney. Just as Thompson once staunchly defended Nixon, Thompson urged a pardon for Libby, who was convicted in March of obstructing justice in the investigation into who leaked a CIA operative's name.
Thompson declared in a June 6 radio commentary that Libby's conviction was a "shocking injustice . . . created and enabled by federal officials." Bush on Monday commuted Libby's 30-month sentence, stopping short of a pardon.
The intensity of Thompson's remarks about Libby is reminiscent of how he initially felt about Nixon. Few Republicans were stronger believers in Nixon during the early days of Watergate.
Thompson, in his 1975 memoir, wrote that he believed "there would be nothing incriminating" about Nixon on the tapes, a theory he said "proved totally wrong."
"In retrospect it is apparent that I was subconsciously looking for a way to justify my faith in the leader of my country and my party, a man who was undergoing a violent attack from the news media, which I thought had never given him fair treatment in the past," Thompson wrote. "I was looking for a reason to believe that Richard M. Nixon, President of the United States, was not a crook."
Thompson was a little-known assistant US attorney in Tennessee when the Watergate investigation in Congress got underway. He had served as campaign manager for the successful 1972 reelection of Senator Howard Baker, a powerful Tennessee Republican.
When the Senate Watergate Committee was established in 1973, Baker became the ranking Republican member and brought Thompson to Washington to serve as minority counsel. Baker, who has been among those now urging Thompson to seek the presidency, did not return a call seeking comment.
John Dean , Nixon's former White House counsel, who was a central witness at the hearings, said he believed that Baker and Thompson were anything but impartial players. "I knew that Thompson would be Baker's man, trying to protect Nixon," Dean said in an interview.
The website of Thompson's presidential exploratory committee,, suggests that Thompson helped reveal the taping system and expose Nixon's role in the Watergate coverup. And while Thompson's question to presidential aide Alexander Butterfield during a Watergate hearing unveiled the existence of the taping system to the outside world, it wasn't Thompson who discovered that Nixon was taping conversations. Nor was Thompson the first to question Butterfield about the possibility.
On July 13, 1973, Armstrong, the Democratic staffer, asked Butterfield a series of questions during a private session that led up to the revelation. He then turned the questioning over to a Republican staffer, Don Sanders, who asked Butterfield the question that led to the mention of the taping system.
To the astonishment of everyone in the room, Butterfield admitted the taping system existed.
When Thompson learned of Butterfield's admission, he leaked the revelation to Nixon's counsel, J. Fred Buzhardt .
"Even though I had no authority to act for the committee, I decided to call Fred Buzhardt at home" to tell him that the committee had learned about the taping system, Thompson wrote. "I wanted to be sure that the White House was fully aware of what was to be disclosed so that it could take appropriate action."
Armstrong said he and other Democratic staffers had long been convinced that Thompson was leaking information about the investigation to the White House. The committee, for example, had obtained a memo written by Buzhardt that Democratic staffers believed was based on information leaked by Thompson.
Armstrong said he thought the leaks would lead to Thompson's firing. "Any prosecutor would be upset if another member of the prosecution team was orchestrating a defense for Nixon," said Armstrong, who later became a Washington Post reporter and currently is executive director of Information Trust, a nonprofit organization specializing in open government issues.
Baker, meanwhile, insisted that Thompson be allowed to ask Butterfield the question about the taping system in a public session on July 16, 1973, three days after the committee had learned about the system.
The choice of Thompson irked Samuel Dash , the Democratic chief counsel on the committee, who preferred that a Democrat be allowed to ask the question. "I personally resented it and felt cheated," Dash wrote in his memoirs. But he said he felt he had "no choice but to let Fred Thompson develop the Butterfield material" because the question initially had been posed by Sanders, a Republican staffer.
When Dash told Thompson on the day of the hearing that he had agreed to let Thompson ask the question that would change US history, Thompson replied: "That's right generous of you, Sam."
So it was, at the hearing, that Thompson leapt into the national spotlight:
"Are you aware of the installation of any listening devices in the Oval Office of the president?" he asked Butterfield during the national televised hearings.
"I was aware of listening devices, yes, sir," Butterfield responded.
Even as he quizzed Butterfield during the hearing, Thompson said later, he believed the tapes would exonerate Nixon, so he saw no problem in pressing for their release. It was after Thompson heard Nixon incriminate himself on the tapes that Thompson finally decided that Nixon was a crook -- and stopped being a Nixon apologist.

2:31 PM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Charles ? I remember the Watergate days because I lived through them. Many defended Nixon until the tapes were heard because in this country we always have a tendency to give a sitting President the benefit of the doubt.

You are grasping at straws here because you don't like Fred which is your right as an American.

Every candidate can be knit picked like you are trying to do. Each one of the incidents that you are stating are picked from a certain context that is slanted against Thompson.

Again with your lobying proof, it was his job and just like any counsel he was hire to do so. This does not mean that it was his belief or his stance on the issue!

If you have evr been to thi site before it is not a koll aid site. The issues are disgussed both in comments and posts.

Eveidently your stance is that you have chosen another candidate and see this as your opportunity to try and take Thompson down a notch I don't know whether you are Dem or GOP or Indy but it is obvious that you are excersising your right to not back this candidate. But taking partial examples out of their entire context does not make for an argument.

Research his actual record and not the things he was hired to do as a lawyer and you will find that Thompson has a conservative voting record which is where it counts.

Let me ask you this. How many times in a job did were you asked to do something that did not necessarily follow your political beliefs but because it was your job you did it.

This apllies even more so to lawyers. They make their living as counsel to many things they may not necessarily follow with their hearts but it is their job and they do it to the best of their ability.

The mans record speaks for itself and not what he was hired to do 20 and 30 years ago!

3:37 PM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

and BTW Charles, just as you have the right to not support a given candidate I have the same right to support who I beleive will be the right person for the job. '

You, by your are you kidding comments and such are one who beleieves if one does not beleive as you then they are wrong and do not have the right to have a different idea or opinion other than yours.

I have been following politics for more than 30 years and have voted in every election since Ford first ran against carter.

I base my opinion on candidates through research and finding out for myself how a candidate stands on issus and policy.

I am not nor ever have been a kool aid drinker. The phrase alone leads me to believe that you are a liberal because that is one of the favorite accusations by the left.

I am a life long Republican but will be the first to disagree with the party or eleted official, or candidate because I actually look into their record and listen to their policy statements.

If you are a Ron Paul backer, that to is your right, but I can tell you I have had a one on one interview with the man and when pushed on issues especially the war he went right down liberal talking points. I heard very little when looking the man in the eye that would convince me he was a die hard conservative. He is at best a liberal Republican with certain conservatives stances on issues! More like Lincoln Chaffee or Olympia Snow!

3:45 PM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth said...

Oh incidently, Ron Paul keeps quoting Reagan but remember when Bush 41 ran Paul changed to the Liberaterian Party because he disagreed with Reagan about two years before the election.

So his trying to look Reaganest is hypocricy at its worst.

4:08 PM, September 06, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fair enough. I dislike Thompson and don't want anyone to be fooled by his self misrepsentation.

I too remember watergate. Thompson was wrong about Nixon and leaked information based on his incorrect opinon. That doesn't make a case for Fred's sense ethics or fair play. It screams insider willing to break the rules based on his personal wants not the law of the land.

Again, I disagree about Fred's role in lobbing. The evidence is very strong and his defense very weak. Someone is lying and so far it's the word of several versus the word of one. I would also point out that the 'several' must be fairly confident in their rememberance of the facts, otherwise it would be very foolish to lie about a candidate who was also a very well connected lawyer.

My poltical views are formed on a canidate by canidate basis not what is fed to me.

I asked for evidence or a back bone arguement for Mr. Thompson despite his past actions. I didn't recive that. I got "I like Fred", "he's following party dogma", was dismissed over differing opinon and not wanting to regsiter in order to give that opinon. That is very kool-aid drinker.

I am a man of conviction. I don't comprise my beliefs for a job. I move on to ones where I don't have too. Fred has had those same choices. He claims one thing and lives another.

4:32 PM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...


Why do you hang around this blog? You arent going to change any of our minds!

Ron Paul is so far out there he's gone for good.

9:46 PM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger Gayle said...

Well, Ken... you must be doing a really good job here. Looks like you got someone's dander up just by endorsing Fred. LOL! It's like you don't have the right to have your opinion.

I've been blogging for several years and one of my favorite bloggers backs Ron Paul! Go figure. However, I feel he has the right to do so because this does still happen to be a free country, whether some believe it or not. Anonymous is not going to change your mind, yet he'll keep coming back hammering away with misinformation that doesn't matter a hill of beans at the end of the day. I don't know why you waste your time arguing with the likes of him, or even why he's wasting his time, because neither you or he is going to change one another's mind. This is still a free country and we can back whomever we choose... at least it was the last time I looked. If we elect Ron Paul as president we will be able to count on our children and grandchildren, at least the females, wearing burquas within a generation. That may be fine for some but it certainly isn't fine with me.

I've made my decision... I like Huckabee and I like Fred. I'm going with Fred because the left hates him so much. It's sort of the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Thanks Charles for helping me to make up my mind. God bless! :)

9:53 PM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger Gayle said...

In addition, the way that liberals always jump on anything from a candidate's past is truly ludicrous. President Reagan was once a Democrat but that didn't stop him from being the greatest president ever! I was also a Democrat at one time. Carter changed that forever.

10:08 PM, September 06, 2007  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, I go out for the day and look what I missed. Charles, thank you for providing me with at least a name. If you truly wanted to badmouth and dig up dirt, you could do so on everyone. There is not one canidate that is perfect and has a perfect past. You make decisions on what you believe is right at the time, and you live with them and learn from them. You could probably find dirt on the Pope if you looked hard enough. What counts is what they stand for and what they will do for this country. When I vote, I will be thinking of my children's future, not about a decision he once made regarding Nixon. I respect your right to not like Fred Thompson, but you are not going to convince me not to vote for him with a cut and paste article. I am concerned about his views on abortion, illegal immigration, healthcare, the war on terror, things that are really important to me.

11:24 PM, September 06, 2007  
Blogger Marie's Two Cents said...

Anyone from now on that hides under the guise of anonymous is a dumbass and will be treated as such.

Since they dont have the brains God gave a Turnip!

12:44 AM, September 07, 2007  
Blogger Endorendil said...

"In addition, the way that liberals always jump on anything from a candidate's past is truly ludicrous."

Republicans would never dream of dragging up old stories, would they? Clinton should be judged on what she says now, not what she did a decade ago, of course. And who would question Kerry's Vietnam record, more than three decades old. Not Republicans, no. Must have been that lefty liberal MSM again.

4:39 AM, September 07, 2007  
Blogger Endorendil said...

Thompson used to defend Nixon and used to work for pro-choice advocacy. You can say that he just had poor judgement and that he puts money over principle. Fine. If that does not bother you in a candidate, you should certainly consider Fred. After all, it worked out so well with Bush.

4:40 AM, September 07, 2007  
Blogger The WordSmith from Nantucket said...

And who would question Kerry's Vietnam record, more than three decades old.

When he made it the central cornerstone of his campaign, why leave the stone unturned? Don't you find it interesting, too, that he let the deadline to sue the Swift Vets pass him by?

9:56 AM, September 07, 2007  
Blogger Endorendil said...

Wordsmith, Kerry didn't run from his Vietnam record, but certainly did not run on it.

If a candidate runs on "character" or something similarly personal and all-encompassing, they run on their entire life experience. That means almost anything goes. I wish candidates would run on concrete proposals and ideas, so that the debate could remain a little more interesting.

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