DEMOCRATS AND RHINO REPUBLICANS - NO GUTS
The House is in the midst of a whirlwind , "debate, " on a non-binding resolution against the troop , "surge, " that is currently under way in Iraq. Each of the 435 members are allowed five minutes to speak their mind, that is those who have one and come to think of even those who don't. This laborious process is expected to last until the vote on Friday to either accept or reject the resolution. A resolution that has no teeth nor any authority to do anything accept allow everyone who voted for it a political opportunity to say, "nya, nya I told you so, " to the President if the troop increase does not bring about the strategic out come that Bush and military commanders are anticipating.
News today of the fleeing of Shiite Muqtada al Sadr to Iran because of fear of the increase in US presence and the influx of American forces in and around the Baghdad which includes, "Sadr City, " would seem to indicate that the increase of troops is having an effect. But of course this will mean nothing to Democrats and the rhino Republicans that support this ridiculous resolution.
A non-binding resolution has no substance nor does it have any meaning other than a weak political statement to gain political points. When we elect Representatives and Senators we expect them to do a job and not spend hours on end of the tax payers money debating for the sake of debate only , then not standing for anything. Using the House and Senate floor as a platform to position themselves for the next election.
Though I do not agree nor advocate a pull back in Iraq or the defunding of this battlefield in the greater Global War on Terror if Democrats and rhino Republicans truly believed that the war was wrong and that the Bush strategy was a bad approach then this would not be a non-binding resolution. It seems that very few especially Democrats are willing to stand up for what they claim they believe by putting their political hide on the line. Rather they make ridiculous political statements like this resolution that satisfy the liberal wing of the DNC yet does not upset moderates and conservatives who believe that we should finish the mission in Iraq.
Speaking out of both side of the mouth seems to be all that many in the Democrat Party know how to do and the rhinos GOP who are similar are no different. If they truly wanted the troops home the House has the ability to cut funding and force the pull out of American troops in Iraq. They also know that if they attempted this the American public would answer with an anger that could be clearly heard in Iraq and every other corner of the world.
So what do they do ? They spend wasted time debating and voting for resolutions that are designed even by the debate format to produce sound bites, attempt to gather political points with the public and send a clear and loud message to our troops that, regardless of the writing in the resolution, the Congress does not believe in nor support what they are doing. To the enemy it sends a signal of encouragement that America will eventually leave so if this enemy will just lay low for awhile they could have their goal of an Islamic radical Iraq where terrorism reigns and hard fought freedoms, paid for with American and Iraqi blood, will no longer exist!
Ken Taylor
News today of the fleeing of Shiite Muqtada al Sadr to Iran because of fear of the increase in US presence and the influx of American forces in and around the Baghdad which includes, "Sadr City, " would seem to indicate that the increase of troops is having an effect. But of course this will mean nothing to Democrats and the rhino Republicans that support this ridiculous resolution.
A non-binding resolution has no substance nor does it have any meaning other than a weak political statement to gain political points. When we elect Representatives and Senators we expect them to do a job and not spend hours on end of the tax payers money debating for the sake of debate only , then not standing for anything. Using the House and Senate floor as a platform to position themselves for the next election.
Though I do not agree nor advocate a pull back in Iraq or the defunding of this battlefield in the greater Global War on Terror if Democrats and rhino Republicans truly believed that the war was wrong and that the Bush strategy was a bad approach then this would not be a non-binding resolution. It seems that very few especially Democrats are willing to stand up for what they claim they believe by putting their political hide on the line. Rather they make ridiculous political statements like this resolution that satisfy the liberal wing of the DNC yet does not upset moderates and conservatives who believe that we should finish the mission in Iraq.
Speaking out of both side of the mouth seems to be all that many in the Democrat Party know how to do and the rhinos GOP who are similar are no different. If they truly wanted the troops home the House has the ability to cut funding and force the pull out of American troops in Iraq. They also know that if they attempted this the American public would answer with an anger that could be clearly heard in Iraq and every other corner of the world.
So what do they do ? They spend wasted time debating and voting for resolutions that are designed even by the debate format to produce sound bites, attempt to gather political points with the public and send a clear and loud message to our troops that, regardless of the writing in the resolution, the Congress does not believe in nor support what they are doing. To the enemy it sends a signal of encouragement that America will eventually leave so if this enemy will just lay low for awhile they could have their goal of an Islamic radical Iraq where terrorism reigns and hard fought freedoms, paid for with American and Iraqi blood, will no longer exist!
Ken Taylor
posted by The Liberal Lie The Conservative Truth | 10:24 AM
40 Comments:
The time wasters are the obstructionist republicans - the very hypocrites, for example, in the senate, who vote against their own resolution (Warner/Collins) - the very same GOP who is now making use of the filibuster they wanted to get rid of during the SCOTUS nominations.
America is sick of GOP hypocrisy.
Mudkitty, America is growing tired of the kool-aid drinkers like yourself who utilize rhetoric with no objectivity to your perspective. Forgive me for being so abrupt, but your statement above completely ignores not only facts, but the Constitution itself.
The republicans have never espoused eliminating filibusters. The filibuster is a time honored tactic that is a protection of the minority rights in the Congress. The republicans, as well as anyone who abhores irresponsibility, argues against the filibusters used to stop judicial nominations from receiving the vote that is expressly required in the Constitution. The Congress is required to confirm or refuse Presidential nominations to the bench, and the dems used a filibuster because they knew that nominess would be confirmed. This tactic, used in this instance, intentionally prevented the Congress from performing a duty that is required by the Constitution.
When confronted with this argument, libs then say that republicans refused Clinton nominations from being voted on. That is technically correct, but a few of Clinton's nominess were killed in committee before reaching the floor of the Senate. The denial of nominess in committee is also a function that both parties utilize, and and option that neither want to lose. The use of the filibuster, however, was never used until the dems used it against Bush nominees.
Spouting kool-aid driven rhetoric is what the new media does. Some intellectual honesty is necessary for debate.
I thought the same thing about Sadr's little vacation. Odd, that you and I would both pick that up, and the whole of the media ignored it. Oh, wait, maybe not so odd.
Hey do you know if the 100 hours is up yet?
Why do you say "debate"?
Kitty and I reject death and intolerance!!!!! Without a doubt, we are not some of Karl Rove's OUTPOST of carnivorous goons!! I take it, THE REPOOPLICKINS stole the so-called election by FUSTIGATING the unspoiled voters in Central America, just like Clarence THOMAS helped our Liar-in-Chief to steal recycling from the outsourced bunny rabbits (WHILE the HOMELAND Security Department sat on the sidelines, by the way).
On THE topic of "resolution": Like we've said a million TIMES before, it looks like WE can say goodbye to the ECOSYSTEM and DESALINIZATION!!!!! Wish you could have stayed!!? Don't GET me started!!!! The petrochemical INDUSTRY can wipe out 58,323 dissident imprisoned whales in Louisiana, all in the name of "patriotism"? Quite LITERALLY, that MAKES it okay, then?!? Kitty, help me clue these people in!!!!!
As I RECALL, it's like 1964 all OVER again!!!!!? I reject fear and graft! Incurious GEORGE only wants MANAGUA for the oil. (If ONLY there were OIL in the southern hemisphere!) Right, Kitty?!?
Down with murder and division!!!! Gee, WHEN the EVANGELICALS say "justice," they really mean "greed"! When they say "school CHOICE," in my opinion it is just a CODE word for "colonialism".
ROTFALMAO! (That's regarding the above comment, not your post, Ken.)
You are right, both Democrats and Rhino Republicans are devoid of both guts and cajones. I find the Rhinos even more despicable than the Democrats because they pretend to be something they are not, while we all know the Democrats don't know what they are for or against, but they're "for" it until they are "against" it, unless Bush is for it, then they are against it, unless he's against it, then they are for it.
See? :)
Robert - excuses, excuses.
Gayle, talk about simplistic...
Cripes, Ken....how do you attract such moonbats?! I'm jealous.
Marie, because they want to make it clear to even the simplest minds the we libs and dems support the troops, but we don't support Bush. We think this so-called commander in chief is screwing the troops. Stopping the funds isn't going to help the troops. Get it now?
Mudkitty,
I didnt see any of this going on when Clinton sent Troops to Kosovo.
Kitty, you're a moron and just parrot everything you read at Crooks and Liars. This is how you nitwits support the troops ...
You do everything in your power and then some to hamstring the President, leak classified info, call the troops "terrorists", "stupid" and tell them they are wasting their lives and then are aghast when you hear that they believe in what they're doing.
The US military doesn't need your kind of support. We'll do just fine without you, in fact, we'll do better and once you and your liberal buddies stop supporting the troops we'll actually increase our chances of victory a thousand fold. Stay away from the military, and take your treasonous politicians with you.
Why don't you stick to the fantasy world of liberal blogs and quit bothering people.
Stopping the funds isn't going to help the troops. Get it now?
No.
So what you're saying is you support the surrender resolution that does nothing substantive other than send an encouraging message to our enemies; but you don't support the cutting off of funds that House Democrats are talking about following it up with?
[mudkitty-style]Is that what you are saying?! Are you really saying that?!![/mudkitty-style]
Mudkitty,
Marie, because they want to make it clear to even the simplest minds the we libs and dems support the troops, but we don't support Bush. We think this so-called commander in chief is screwing the troops. Stopping the funds isn't going to help the troops. Get it now?
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You simpletons dont support the Troops, you dont even know how! This is NOT support of the Troops and against the President, it's NOT supporting the Troops OR our President and last I checked he was YOUR President too. So called Commander-In-Chief? Please!! You all think you won some victory here, and you may occupy the House and the Senate for the next 2 years but we the people elected President Bush and he is still in charge.
Because I'm an American, and a citizen, it's my duty to call attention to the fact that the Commander in Chief is undermining our National Security and our troops.
And I wouldn't say two elections...
Don't tell me to "get over it.'
Ah, now that's arguing the issue and not the personality! Not. Typical republican.
Perhaps you republicans should GET OVER you obsession with Clinton's penis? Get over that.
Bush has screwed up in matters of war and peace, life and death.
Then you must be a rightwinger whose under 21.
i am going to bypass the phallic charged remarks above and go back to very good point brought up in the post. This nonbinding resolution is a waste of money and meaningless. For polticians, this saves thier own money by not running thier own ads. The media loves the Bush-bashing and runs it all over the air. And we pick up the tab in tax dollars and advertising on the networks. In a nutshell, I am glad they don;t condier anything really important, I kids to feed and bills to pay.
Actually, the point is to show that the congress supports the troops, hence it won't cut off monetary support, but it disapproves of the Bush Administration.
After all if you support the Bush Administration, you don't support the troops.
mudkitty is caught in some type of temporal illogic loop. Once she's in your blog, her loop just continues with same illogic over and over and over.
There's only one way to stop the illogic loop ...
I didn't bother read the other comments. I do have this to say it maybe a repeat so forgive me. But in my opinion they Demonrats and rinos are hell bent to get us all killed. May they go first.
Blessings.
Mudkitty,
Then you must be a rightwinger whose under 21.
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Why? Because I'm NOT obsessed with Clinton's Penis? LMAO!
You seem to be a bit jealous here Mudkitty, maybe you wish you could have been Monica?
Actually, the point is to show that the congress supports the troops, hence it won't cut off monetary support, but it disapproves of the Bush Administration.
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I think you have it backwards Mudkitty, this is the first step toward surrender and cutting off support for our Military serving in the field right now. Congress doesnt support the Troops, they just proved that. They just slapped our Troops in the face and told them "We dont trust you to bring this to a victorious conclusion"
What our Troops must be thinking!
However our Troops are brave and strong and dont agree with this nonsense in Congress, they will keep pressing on and prove all of you crybaby nay-sayers wrong.
After all if you support the Bush Administration, you don't support the troops.
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Oh that's the most idiotic statement I have ever heard yet.
That one is NOT going to wash Catfish!
Interesting, Ken. I do understand why you let Mufkitty post here: she makes the liberals look really bad. Of course, they already look really bad, but she is certainly proof of their idiotic and completely illogical way of thinking; if you can call it "thinking".
I would just like to know what Mudkitty is smoking! Must be some pretty wicked stuff lol.
Well said Ken!!
Ah the old "what are you smoking" line. Strike one for originality, not.
Oh please Marie. You're assumption are that our troops are idiots, and that mere debate is going to demoralize them, when in fact, they are smart enough to know that what they are fighting for is our right to debate.
Unless you like soviet, lock-step, group think. If so, come out of the closet.
I don't comment on the non-binding resolution, because it is, like most Democrat positions, totally useless and a waste of time and tax payers money.
Talk, talk, talk.
What good are they doing us, the troops, the president, or even themselves?
If wishes were horses, beggars would ride. Democrats, And some Republicans, are just hanging their hopes on wishes. Totally useless.
The point of the non-binding resolution is to send a message to the Bush Administration, without cutting off funding to the troops, who really need it. What's so hard to understand about that?
This is a message of no-confidence in the commander in chief, not the troops.
This is a message of no-confidence in the commander in chief, not the troops.
Do you draw comfort in knowing that America's enemies are cheering you on, and loving every minute of it?
It's a vote of no-confidence in the plan laid out by General Petraeus. Why did they not oppose his promotion if they have no faith in his strategy?
Mudkitty, these Congressional leaders are playing partisan politics with soldier lives. I'm sure they care about the troops and all; but they don't understand the enormous harm they are doing by sending a message to the enemy that Congress does not back our soldiers in the field, by having no faith in their mission.
And are you still denying that Democrats like Murtha want to take the next step, and cut off troop funding?
Why on earth would the enemy choose to give up now, when we are waving the fruits of their victory before their eyes, by our elected leaders holding up white flags of surrender prematurely?
Why can't you see a false dichotomy when it's right in front of you?
You can support the troops, hell, it would be liberal, to send them liberal amounts of money, and we will spend a fortune on them. But this time with oversite. No blank checks for Hallibuton, KBR or Blackwater, and no stinting on armor and supplies.
Yeah, it's not mutually exclusive to condemn a bad policy while still supporting the troops, who have no say in the matter anyway.
Hey mudtool ... why don't you settle this whole "support the troops" thing by asking them how they feel? I wonder why the MSM hasn't really done that. Don't you think the democrats would want to know? Probably not ... they wouldn't get the answer they wanted.
All that would take is for me to ask certain members of my family, and I've already done that.
Gee....I didn't realize you were related to Watada.
Do you bother to listen to the soldiers who DON'T share your worldview politics?
"All that would take is for me to ask certain members of my family, and I've already done that."
"Certain members" of your family does not a concensus make.
I listen to soldiers with all points of view. It's easy, what with the internets.
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